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posted: 2017-05-27 09:23:24 (ID: 100105498) Report Abuse
Buziano wrote:
I guess each 1.1 league plus the elite have the same discussion. Can we somehow get to 50%.

In order to do that the pressure on the season change is even more important than ever before. After having had trouble before with having players cut and loss of training I now watch out to have the forecast show me a positive figure for tend of season. With this change this figure would need to be at least at 45 Million. Is this realistic for most of our teams ? It is surely not realistic for me. I could pledge 10 Million or maybe 15. If I do that as one of the leading SeaDevil teams, what does that mean for everyone else ?

Baseline : In my eyes this reform is good only for second leagues with all their bots and newbies.

Alternative solution : find a way for us to make money in the off season.

It's very easy from my point of view.
Donate what is possible and get the media center slowly to those 50%.
THEN donate more and more, since from that point on, it's a money machine, which leads to not having those problems in season 27.
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Lamba
posted: 2017-05-27 10:51:19 (ID: 100105507) Report Abuse
I don't get this.

Appearantly I pledged $50 million and is set to earn back $2.5 million, but I don't have that much money... And I don't know if I have a media center.
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Firenze
posted: 2017-05-27 11:02:48 (ID: 100105508) Report Abuse
Lamba wrote:
I don't get this.

Appearantly I pledged $50 million and is set to earn back $2.5 million, but I don't have that much money... And I don't know if I have a media center.


2.5 million is your weekly return
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Lamba
posted: 2017-05-27 12:13:01 (ID: 100105515) Report Abuse
Firenze wrote:
Lamba wrote:
I don't get this.

Appearantly I pledged $50 million and is set to earn back $2.5 million, but I don't have that much money... And I don't know if I have a media center.


2.5 million is your weekly return

My 7 day weekly or my YP-week weekly return?
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Firenze
posted: 2017-05-27 12:33:29 (ID: 100105520) Report Abuse
Lamba wrote:
Firenze wrote:
Lamba wrote:
I don't get this.

Appearantly I pledged $50 million and is set to earn back $2.5 million, but I don't have that much money... And I don't know if I have a media center.


2.5 million is your weekly return

My 7 day weekly or my YP-week weekly return?


RZA weeks, so it would be every youth pull.
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Rock777
posted: 2017-05-27 13:40:37 (ID: 100105524) Report Abuse
Firenze wrote:
Lamba wrote:
I don't get this.

Appearantly I pledged $50 million and is set to earn back $2.5 million, but I don't have that much money... And I don't know if I have a media center.


2.5 million is your weekly return


2.5 million x 24 weeks = 60 million. So you would make a 10 million dollar profit assuming your league percentage reached a high enough percentage (whatever it says right now).
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Rock777
posted: 2017-05-27 13:47:58 (ID: 100105525)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
Adventurers wrote:
Rock777 wrote:
IMGregory wrote:
I dunno... To me this seems like it'll cause a rich get richer scenario


Guess its a first world problem, but to me it seems like the opposite. For a team that already has a large bank balance, the only thing contributing to the Mediacenter accomplishes is to prop up my opposition. So I disagree entirely; this function is more about distributing wealth.


I totally understand if you don't want to contribute but I don't get your math
you currently have X and I have Y
if the mediacentre pays out max you will still have X but I will have Y+10
To ensure your parity over me don't you also want X+10
In this game there are no interest payments for money in the bank


I have infinite buying power already. 10 million to me is like 1 dollar to a poor team. If a poorer team gains 10 million it could be doubling their buying power. So by contributing to the Mediacenter I am propping up my opposition without gaining any benefit myself.

Giving every team money creates inflation, which reduces the value of money that currently exists in the game. Narrowing the gap between the richest and the poorest, effectively making the poor richer and the rich poorer. Realistically the Mediacenter is only beneficial to teams below the 50% point in wealth, but since most of us don't really know where we stand financially among the community as a whole, it becomes a game tradeoff decision. I like the idea of the Mediacenter, it is just a tactically poor decision for wealthy teams to support it. It is simply another tactical decision.

There is also potential risk if backers back out at the last second. You may think you have enough backers, but if some back out, you could be left with a lose. Just like in real life Some wealthy team may suddenly realize it is to their detriment to fund the Mediacenter. Or an underhanded team my mislead folks into contributing, pull out, and leave everyone else holding the bag.

Last edited on 2017-05-27 13:50:48 by Rock777

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McKay93
posted: 2017-05-27 14:09:58 (ID: 100105527) Report Abuse
Rock777 wrote:

I have infinite buying power already. 10 million to me is like 1 dollar to a poor team. If a poorer team gains 10 million it could be doubling their buying power. So by contributing to the Mediacenter I am propping up my opposition without gaining any benefit myself.

Giving every team money creates inflation, which reduces the value of money that currently exists in the game. Narrowing the gap between the richest and the poorest, effectively making the poor richer and the rich poorer. Realistically the Mediacenter is only beneficial to teams below the 50% point in wealth, but since most of us don't really know where we stand financially among the community as a whole, it becomes a game tradeoff decision. I like the idea of the Mediacenter, it is just a tactically poor decision for wealthy teams to support it. It is simply another tactical decision.

There is also potential risk if backers back out at the last second. You may think you have enough backers, but if some back out, you could be left with a lose. Just like in real life Some wealthy team may suddenly realize it is to their detriment to fund the Mediacenter. Or an underhanded team my mislead folks into contributing, pull out, and leave everyone else holding the bag.


You would be right if there actually were inflation in the game, but as it is, the only field it will affect the prices of is the transfer market. Other than that, the extra 10m is just an additional 49 skill player you can have on your team and still break even for the season - If you get the league to cooperate.
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Rock777
posted: 2017-05-27 14:15:41 (ID: 100105528)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
There is inflation in every economy.

If I give my opponent 10 million more dollars, that is 10 million more they can spend on the transfer market. Thus they can make their team better. Thus, I have given them an advantage without gaining anything in return.

I don't need an extra 10 million to hire that 49 skill player. I can buy him now. So I am giving my opponents that extra 49 skill player. Propping up my opponents.

There is no such thing as free money. An economy is a closed system. You can only increase wealth to a given person by decreasing wealth to others.

Last edited on 2017-05-27 14:42:40 by Rock777

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andrew2scott2
posted: 2017-05-27 14:53:47 (ID: 100105529) Report Abuse

Pete I have to ask is the math working right. At 56% in the return is only 96%
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