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Stanford87
posted: 2017-08-17 18:47:01 (ID: 100111868) Report Abuse
So the basic idea is to copy the transfer market system and use it for the lending of players, with the difference that instead of a deadline where the auction expires it will be first come, first served (so a manager can borrow a player the second he is put on the "lending market"). This rule gives new managers an incentive to be online (and therefore experience the game) as much as possible to get the best players available.
Lent players will still be payed by (and practice with) their original team, so rookie teams save money and loaning teams don't have to worry about their players not getting optimal training.

Benefits (for rookies) would be to have some nice players at the beginning of one's manager career already and therefore be (at least a little bit) competitive early on. The fact of getting decent players for free will also hopefully restrain rookies from going all out on the transfer market right at the start of their career.

The benefit (for lending teams) would obviously be free experience for young players, who won't get too much playing time on advanced teams.


Things to consider (and discuss):

- How long does a player count as a rookie?
My suggestion is to go with the media center here and enable the lending market for players within their first 24 RZA weeks. I also thought about enabling it permanently for everybody, but I think this would be dangerous as established managers would probably scoop up their rivals talents and simply bench them. Which leads us to the next question...

- How do I make sure that a rookie manager uses my player?
That's one tricky question, I guess one just needs to hope that a manager who borrows player wants to win games and therefore starts the best players possible, which would be the borrowed players. Another idea is fining rookie managers who don't give enough snaps to those players, like "You will be fined $X if player Y doesn't get Z snaps this season."

- How long will players be on loan?
I suggest that a loan always expires with season rollover, except if the borrowing manager goes bot, then the player will immediately return to his original team.


Any thoughts on this?
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oakbark
posted: 2017-08-17 20:00:08 (ID: 100111872) Report Abuse
Interesting idea, but I would prefer that the loaning team can choose who he loans to. So they have to accept the option.

I don't like there being a penalty if they are not played. That's down to the loaning managers doing their homework and presents some risk for the reward. There should be no penalty involved here.

The loaned players must train with the new team and again that's down to managers doing their homework and picking the right manager to lend to.

A cap of 5 players in total loaned out per season per team and a cap of one loaned player to a particular team

No team can loan in more than 5 players

This stops any abuse of the system from teams becoming farms, keeps a lid on tankers just bringing in full rosters with no wage impact.

I just threw these numbers up as idea guidelines for illustrations.

All in all I think it's a very interesting and a good idea that will add to the game. I imagine it be a real bugger to code it all though lol.
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Rock777
posted: 2017-08-17 21:33:57 (ID: 100111879) Report Abuse
This could be an interesting feature. I think picking who to loan to would cause to many loopholes for exploitation. Its better that it is a competition rather than assigning all your good players to your buddy (or the other team you own). From that same regard, I think first come first serve isn't a great idea. Better to let players bid on player similar to sales. The resulting fee could just go back to the bank rather than the owning manager.

The fact that players might not get played could be a reasonable risk, but again very easy to exploit. Grab the players of one of your competitors (with you second rookie team) and sit them on the bench to weaken your opponent. Better to have some sort of mechanic, where loaning a player comes with an automatic agreement that you will play them for X number of downs during the year (X could be statically set by the engine). Failure to do so (short of injuries?) could result in some sort of penalty.

A simpler alternative might be to allow the loaning team to take their player back at any point in time (refunding the fee back to the borrowing team; not from the bank this time).

Not positive this sort of system would have to be limited to rookie teams. Maybe a level restriction? So only 2.x teams can borrow players?

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noodle
posted: 2017-08-18 18:16:49 (ID: 100111909) Report Abuse
I like this idea in principle but i don't know if NFL has this. If NFL doesn't then I don't think we should.

If we did have it i think the manager who owns the player must choose who he or she loans a player too. Also i like the idea of a limit of loaning only 1 player to any team, with a maximum of 5 being loaned out from any team and any team only loaning in a maximum of 3 from other teams.

i am torn on training, logic would dictate that training is decided by the manager who has the player on loan, but that would probably ensure lower quality players were put on the loan list as managers wouldnt want to give over the training to their most promising young players. perhaps the owning manager could set training for the player at the begining of the loan period.

with regards to who teams can loan to, perhaps 1.1 can only loan to 2.x and elite can only loan to 1.1

i would suggest loan terms too, such as length. i dont think it should just be the entire season with no chance of recalling the player.

I am sure all this would be pretty complicated, but if NFL have it, maybe it could be considered.
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posted: 2017-08-18 18:25:32 (ID: 100111910) Report Abuse
I miss the long term benefit of the rookie team as well the downside for the vet team.
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Gambler75
posted: 2017-08-19 04:39:15 (ID: 100111927) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
I miss the long term benefit of the rookie team as well the downside for the vet team.


It's an interesting suggestion ... but agree with Pete, the long term part for the younger team is missing.

Also might hurt the transfer market for younger players, as I would love to have kept some of the players I've put up for sale due to lack of snaps the last few seasons, bc of being in Elite. Again, seems like the scale would be very heavy in the older teams favor there, and sort of double whammy on the younger one (likely rising too fast for their actual roster, and losing out on potential nice buys?)
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