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ivo17
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posted: 2017-12-10 11:00:48 (ID: 100120540) Report Abuse |
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Mayfield wins the Heisman trophy.
Love 2nd, jackson 3th Better QB than Rosen & Darnold? |
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posted: 2017-12-10 15:46:26 (ID: 100120557) Report Abuse |
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ivo17 wrote:
Mayfield wins the Heisman trophy. Love 2nd, jackson 3th Better QB than Rosen & Darnold? Not a better pro prospect. Average arm and awful footwork. That footwork is going to cause him massive problems in the NFL. Also has accuracy issues. Had a better season in college and deserved the Heisman this year bit as a pro doesnt translate i to the best prospect at all. |
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| posted: 2017-12-10 17:02:15 (ID: 100120574) Report Abuse | |
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The pro-not-pro-prospect-thing is from my point of view very much related to the coaches the guy gets to right after college.
But most coaches do not train their prospects the way they should and are not willing to invest the time, hence they drop out of the NFL fast, like Tebow did. And of cause do the players not adapt well very often, since they don't see the need to adapt. Someone will take the guy and then he gets his money. |
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ivo17
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posted: 2017-12-10 17:10:13 (ID: 100120575) Report Abuse |
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oakbark wrote:
ivo17 wrote:
Mayfield wins the Heisman trophy. Love 2nd, jackson 3th Better QB than Rosen & Darnold? Not a better pro prospect. Average arm and awful footwork. That footwork is going to cause him massive problems in the NFL. Also has accuracy issues. Had a better season in college and deserved the Heisman this year bit as a pro doesnt translate i to the best prospect at all. 262/369 (like 71%) for 4.340yards, 41td vs 5 picks... That doesnt sound like accuracy issues to me |
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oakbark
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posted: 2017-12-10 19:06:03 (ID: 100120583) Report Abuse |
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ivo17 wrote:
oakbark wrote:
ivo17 wrote:
Mayfield wins the Heisman trophy. Love 2nd, jackson 3th Better QB than Rosen & Darnold? Not a better pro prospect. Average arm and awful footwork. That footwork is going to cause him massive problems in the NFL. Also has accuracy issues. Had a better season in college and deserved the Heisman this year bit as a pro doesnt translate i to the best prospect at all. 262/369 (like 71%) for 4.340yards, 41td vs 5 picks... That doesnt sound like accuracy issues to me i am not questioning his production in a college spread offense against college defenders i am questioning how he projects as a prospect in the NFL. Here i believe that he lacks the size arm strength and accurracy as well as obviously not showing anything to make us think he can read a pro defense or run a pro style offense. His stats are a product of scheme and competition level. i think he's shown enough to make me doubt how it will translate into the pro game a lot more than Rosen and Darnauld. I dont rate Allen either nor Jackson. i Think Thorsten may surprise a lot as a pro. |
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ivo17
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posted: 2018-01-04 08:15:02 (ID: 100121478) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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Both Rosen and Darnold enter the 2018 draft.
I wonder if Darnolds horrible preformance vs Ohio State D# makes him drop a few spots. I really hope the Browns pick Barkley at number 1. I really believe he will be an impact player from week 1. Then at 4 they can still get a QB if they need one. But i really think they will try to get a QB that has already proven himself in free agency. If the Browns do that, they can get Chubb or Fitzpatrick at 4. Chubb & Garret.... run for you lives QB's 
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posted: 2018-01-04 18:09:14 (ID: 100121491) Report Abuse |
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ivo17 wrote:
I wonder if Darnolds horrible preformance this season makes him drop a few spots. Fixed that for you. Interceptions and fumbles. He turned the ball over a bunch. |
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posted: 2018-01-04 18:35:03 (ID: 100121497) Report Abuse |
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ivo17 wrote:
Both Rosen and Darnold enter the 2018 draft. I wonder if Darnolds horrible preformance vs Ohio State D# makes him drop a few spots. I really hope the Browns pick Barkley at number 1. I really believe he will be an impact player from week 1. Then at 4 they can still get a QB if they need one. But i really think they will try to get a QB that has already proven himself in free agency. If the Browns do that, they can get Chubb or Fitzpatrick at 4. Chubb & Garret.... run for you lives QB's
Well there is one hope then of a Vet and that's Cousins. So they need the Skins not to either work out a long term or spank another franchise tag on him. Cousins if he does hit FA is going to reset the QB market completely. There has been a long held belief that despite their astronomical wages QB were actually underpaid for their worth to the team in terms of being the leader, the face of the franchise and of on field importance. The situation was helped to remain because no prime career top 10 QB ever got near FA. Now one might and if he does, cash rich, success starved, QB needy teams will be in an almighty bidding war and throwing money around. Cousins wont just become the highest paid QB in history he will destroy the mark. That will get every other QB and agent talking about new contracts. if he makes FA there will be an NFL wide knock on. I think the Skins will franchise him again or start with a contract long term close to that franchise figure. Yes 33 million is a lot but Cousins will go North of that in FA. Cousins holds all the aces here in long term negotiations and i think to get a signature is going to cost the Skins heavy. It also highlights the ineptitude of the Skins Front Office because he should have been locked up three years ago. |
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ivo17
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posted: 2018-01-17 18:23:21 (ID: 100122224) Edits found: 2 Report Abuse |
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Last edited on 2018-01-17 18:24:43 by ivo17 |
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That's sad.
Kansas States HC Snyders Grandson was also found dead. Cause of death unknown. Last edited on 2018-01-18 18:02:25 by jack6 |
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