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krugodam
posted: 2018-02-27 22:54:34 (ID: 100125005) Report Abuse
Had this happen in a league game yesterday:

1st quarter: 9:58 1 and 10 to go on opp 46, Vinicio Figini (OC) snaps the ball to Seth Whitmire (QB), Seth Whitmire (QB) selected Carol Okeefe (WR/R) as target, Garth Patton (DE/L) breaks through the line, he passes outer right for 22 yards to him, intercepted by Lindsay Prieto (CB/L) on the opp 24 (Singleback Big vs. 4-4-3) more

I've double checked which playbook I was running and then put the same details in the playbook checker, and the play shown is:

Singleback Big - pass - both flanks - so all is as it should be, except for the throwing for 22 yards bit...

In the same game, same down, distance and play call, had these which worked as normal:

1st quarter: 6:24 1 and 10 to go on opp 47, Vinicio Figini (OC) snaps the ball to Seth Whitmire (QB), Seth Whitmire (QB) selected Carol Okeefe (WR/R) as target, this outer right pass goes to the receiver, who catches the ball, Lindsay Prieto (CB/L) missed his chance for a tackle, Elias Söderström (MLB) made the tackle, forward progress: 13 yards, New first down (Singleback Big vs. 4-4-3) more

4th quarter: 15:00 1 and 10 to go on opp 47, Donny Moyer (OC) snaps the ball to Seth Whitmire (QB), Seth Whitmire (QB) selected Chalermchai Mahidol (WR/R) as target, the receiver of this outer right pass catches the ball, the tackle was missed by Robbie Strother (CB/L), tackled by Ronaldo Queiroz (OLB/L), forward progress: 13 yards, New first down (Singleback Big vs. 3-3-5) more

Just trying to understand if there is a reason for this to happen, eg random factor, coaches call etc.

The game ID is:100567513
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waky53
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posted: 2018-02-28 03:09:45 (ID: 100125017) Report Abuse
You are gonna get intercepted sometimes.
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krugodam
posted: 2018-02-28 03:22:41 (ID: 100125018) Report Abuse
The INT isn't the point.

In my experience it is not normal for the QB to try a 22 yard pass on 1st and 10 when you have a 'normal' pass in the playbook - ie just pass NOT medium or long.
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posted: 2018-02-28 09:52:59 (ID: 100125037) Report Abuse
I've been told before that the QB can call his own plays to an extent and decide to go for something slightly different to what's in the playbook.
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krugodam
posted: 2018-02-28 11:11:20 (ID: 100125040)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
Jonny Utah wrote:
I've been told before that the QB can call his own plays to an extent and decide to go for something slightly different to what's in the playbook.


Yep that's more than likely what happened.

It's really unusual though, been playing since season 23 and I've not seen it happen before in any of my games - at least on 1st down, 2nd and 3rd downs it might be more difficult to work out when the QB decides to freestyle.

Last edited on 2018-02-28 11:17:58 by krugodam

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posted: 2018-02-28 13:52:53 (ID: 100125045) Report Abuse
Jonny Utah wrote:
I've been told before that the QB can call his own plays to an extent and decide to go for something slightly different to what's in the playbook.


This!

Is this explanation ok for you?

And, it is the QBs decision of he goes for 10 or 22 yard passes on 1st and 10. You give him a preset in the playbook, but that's it.
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krugodam
posted: 2018-02-28 21:39:44 (ID: 100125083) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Jonny Utah wrote:
I've been told before that the QB can call his own plays to an extent and decide to go for something slightly different to what's in the playbook.


This!

Is this explanation ok for you?

And, it is the QBs decision of he goes for 10 or 22 yard passes on 1st and 10. You give him a preset in the playbook, but that's it.


It is, thanks Pete
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posted: 2018-02-28 22:18:03 (ID: 100125086) Report Abuse
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TheWizardKs
posted: 2018-05-04 23:49:19 (ID: 100127827)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
This should really be a choice of the manager of the team, to allow the QB the freedom to do so.

Also, why can we not set percentages to run in certain situations, such as 3rd & 1, 70% run 30% pass? And to make sure I understand it, if I have no 3rd & 1 in my playbook, will it pass 50% of the time, and if so will it randomly choose short, medium, long passes?

P.S. I used search to find this instead of a new post, did not notice in bug reports...please disregard that part.

P.S.S. And I have discovered the overall play call setting still applies and covers the random question. I guess I'm still confused on how it works but will figure it out eventually. Any pointers would be great, and thanks.

Last edited on 2018-05-05 00:10:03 by TheWizardKs

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posted: 2018-05-05 18:24:27 (ID: 100127857) Report Abuse
No worries for the "Wrong forum"...maybe, you want to discuss this further...in Discussions
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