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smokerteer
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posted: 2018-10-20 20:48:00 (ID: 100133706) Report Abuse |
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Meitheisman wrote:
Not sure I agree that the CoC makes the rich richer. It just makes the best managers richer as a reward for being better and winning more, just like the SC and league. Wilm and OC both joined much later than I did and I most definitely have more money in the bank than them yet they beat me 90% of the time. Sometimes it's okay to admit that others are better than you and not blame it on the game design. If those asking for a change now were ranked #1 overall in RZA and dominated all 3 competitions I doubt they'd complain about the CoC. Just my 2 cents. As I've said in other posts and earlier in this one, It's purely that teams that win Elite bowl or finish as runners up will win COC more than 70% of the time. That's a lot higher than their chances of winning the following seasons SuperCup or repeating Elite Bowl, because their main rivals by the very nature of the COC cup are excluded from this competition. I'd be quite happy if Bowl and SuperCup prize money was increased to reflect the difficulty of winning the Elite Bowl but it was rejected by Pete (here). The problem is that Pete seems to have promised that Elite won't be treated any differently to [for example] Thunder 1. From my original suggestion I hadn't realised that there would / had become such a divide between the top elite and higher division 1 teams but as you can see from that post my intention is not to stop the best teams winning money but to ensure the rewards reflect the achievement. Established Elite sides, in my opinion deserve their rewards as they do not gain 'great' draft picks, but those rewards need to be relative to the achievements. I hope this discussion has not come across as me being jealous, or being unable to cope with my own lack of success   . Seriously I have the upmost respect for the top teams, especially the top two who joined only a couple of seasons before I rejoined.
It just didn't make sense to me that winning Elite bowl is worth alot less than winning COC and for an established Elite team is statistically going to be substantially easier. 
Hope that clears this up for you Meitheisman and any teams such as Orange Crush who may have thought I was doubting there achievements  |
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Meitheisman
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posted: 2018-10-20 20:58:34 (ID: 100133707) Report Abuse |
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Just think of CoC money for the two Elite Conf Champs as a reward for winning their Elite Conf the year before then. You don't get more money for playing the Elite Bowl than any 1.1 Bowl but you do get a decent chance at easy money the following year. Seems perfectly fine to me.
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smokerteer
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posted: 2018-10-20 21:15:45 (ID: 100133708) Report Abuse |
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Meitheisman wrote:
Just think of CoC money for the two Elite Conf Champs as a reward for winning their Elite Conf the year before then. You don't get more money for playing the Elite Bowl than any 1.1 Bowl but you do get a decent chance at easy money the following year. Seems perfectly fine to me. So, what your saying is, 'pretend what happens is really something else.
Teams should get tens of millions on average the next season for participating in the Bowl but winning it only gets a difference 1,000,000 that season? That really seems normal to you?  |
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marinarul10
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posted: 2018-10-21 04:41:36 (ID: 100133714) Report Abuse |
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Jonny Utah wrote:
pete wrote:
So let's shrink down the income out of CoC and I am fine with it...Kind a "friendly, but twice" maybe, and a peanut bonus for the champion... I really dislike ditching the CoC format  This sounds like a good idea, it would be sad to lose it. Pete, please think about it twice.... we are removing a nice reward for all conference winners....yes, Elite conference winners get a bit cut but these is ok, we are talking about the best two teams in RZA..... the impact will be bigger for those under 10 seasons teams leaving on the edge and winning 1.1 conference than for the two Elite teams who anyway they already have half a billion or more in their account....
My personal opinion on all this is that if we do not have a better option for the Coc, it should remain as it is right now.... |
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Meitheisman
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posted: 2018-10-21 16:56:21 (ID: 100133739) Report Abuse |
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smokerteer wrote:
Meitheisman wrote:
Just think of CoC money for the two Elite Conf Champs as a reward for winning their Elite Conf the year before then. You don't get more money for playing the Elite Bowl than any 1.1 Bowl but you do get a decent chance at easy money the following year. Seems perfectly fine to me. So, what your saying is, 'pretend what happens is really something else.
Teams should get tens of millions on average the next season for participating in the Bowl but winning it only gets a difference 1,000,000 that season? That really seems normal to you? Yes, that's how the rewards have been built into RZA since I joined over 6 years ago so it does seem perfectly normal to me 
On a more serious note I think the current CoC format makes more sense than any of the suggestions I've read in this thread given the constraints imposed by the game design and Pete. |
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smokerteer
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posted: 2018-10-21 17:13:52 (ID: 100133740) Report Abuse |
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Meitheisman wrote:
smokerteer wrote:
Meitheisman wrote:
Just think of CoC money for the two Elite Conf Champs as a reward for winning their Elite Conf the year before then. You don't get more money for playing the Elite Bowl than any 1.1 Bowl but you do get a decent chance at easy money the following year. Seems perfectly fine to me. So, what your saying is, 'pretend what happens is really something else.
Teams should get tens of millions on average the next season for participating in the Bowl but winning it only gets a difference 1,000,000 that season? That really seems normal to you? Yes, that's how the rewards have been built into RZA since I joined over 6 years ago so it does seem perfectly normal to me
On a more serious note I think the current CoC format makes more sense than any of the suggestions I've read in this thread given the constraints imposed by the game design and Pete. Maybe but it still seems to me that there should be far more reward guaranteed for the winners of bowl matches. It does make the bowl itself kinda redundant. Besides the best few teams could all be in the same conference! |
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posted: 2018-10-22 07:34:48 (ID: 100133757) Report Abuse |
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I agree with those who think that CoC is obsolete now. Personally I would like another competition instead of CoC. Something like Interregional Cup where the teams from "Fire" play the teams from "Admirals" etc would be great imo. It could be knock-out cup or round-robin format league (7 game days).
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Cheesehead
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posted: 2018-10-22 09:07:22 (ID: 100133760) Report Abuse |
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Yes. great idea and we can call it Clash of the Leagues!
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Great Idea. I suggest to make that a Team Event.
Like Fire vs Admirals, random Pairing, 7 Matches for every team, all win summed up, winning Region is those with the most wins and Teams get a trophy at the end of the Season. Maybe Pairings with big ELO difference should be avoided, or Major Blowouts get ignored, don't know. Basic idea is that every game in the Region Counts, so not the case that ONE Major Team runs the table, more the General strength of the Region is important. Last edited on 2018-10-22 10:10:59 by jack6 |
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smokerteer
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posted: 2018-10-22 15:32:11 (ID: 100133773) Report Abuse |
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I really like this idea, my only concern is that it may be a bit unfair on teams that aren't in Thunder
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