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| posted: 2019-03-24 22:15:57 (ID: 100137929) Report Abuse | |
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Meitheisman wrote:
pete wrote:
 I'm sorry if my question offended you but it was a genuine question, I do not understand why relaxed is an option for official games. In my hood "rolling eyes" means something different than offending someone. It means more something like "why are tomatoes red?"...and the answer to such questions is always "I have no idea, because I did never start thinking about it"... |
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posted: 2019-03-25 08:30:53 (ID: 100137937) Report Abuse |
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That's okay and not very important in the end, I'd much rather you spend your precious time considering the 2 Pre-Elite leagues I mentionned a few days ago
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| posted: 2019-04-05 08:58:04 (ID: 100138338) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |
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| posted: 2019-04-08 17:09:30 (ID: 100138511) Report Abuse | |
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The purpose of promotion and demotion is to direct teams to the level of competition that suits them. So the more levels the better.
I think to problem Pete is addressing is that he doesn't think there are 32 "Elite" level teams - - not sure what the solution for that it - - I don't think you can reduce the size of a league to something smaller. Steve SD Blitz |
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posted: 2019-04-08 20:48:17 (ID: 100138514) Report Abuse |
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Solana_Steve wrote:
The purpose of promotion and demotion is to direct teams to the level of competition that suits them. So the more levels the better. I think to problem Pete is addressing is that he doesn't think there are 32 "Elite" level teams - - not sure what the solution for that it - - I don't think you can reduce the size of a league to something smaller. Steve SD Blitz If this is the problem we are trying to address then why not model it on the Scottish Premiership league? This has only 12 teams but they play each other multiple times to achieve the required number of games (33) in the league in the first phase, where each club plays either once at home and twice away or vice versa. After this first phase of matches, the league splits into two halves - a 'top six' section and a 'bottom six' section. Each club proceeds to play a further five matches, one against each of the other five teams in their own section to achieve thier total of 38. After the first phase is completed, clubs cannot move out of their own half in the league, even if they achieve more or fewer points than a higher or lower ranked team, respectively. We could then relegate teams accordingly. |
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posted: 2019-04-08 22:21:38 (ID: 100138520) Report Abuse |
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Solana_Steve wrote:
I think to problem Pete is addressing is that he doesn't think there are 32 "Elite" level teams - - not sure what the solution for that is - - I don't think you can reduce the size of a league to something smaller. Steve SD Blitz Maybe the yo-yo teams like mine had better improve a bit and try to make it to Elite for more seasons than just one at a time!  |
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| posted: 2019-04-08 22:51:03 (ID: 100138522) Report Abuse | |
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I will say this...for the Galaxy, there have been only 3 teams that have ever stayed up - - SD Blitz, Vulcans (until they dissolved) and then OC. Basically, the other two spots have been yo-yo teams the whole time (including Pete's team a few times). I don't know if that a good or bad thing - - but the gap between Galaxy and NC South hasn't ever really been bridged affectively.
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| posted: 2019-04-09 01:57:01 (ID: 100138526) Report Abuse | |
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Solana_Steve wrote:
The purpose of promotion and demotion is to direct teams to the level of competition that suits them. So the more levels the better. I think to problem Pete is addressing is that he doesn't think there are 32 "Elite" level teams - - not sure what the solution for that it - - I don't think you can reduce the size of a league to something smaller. Steve SD Blitz We have a situation ! There have been teams with W3-L13 staying in Elite and W11-L5 being relegated directly (R), W6-L10 staying and W10-L6 being relegated directly. Isn't that the problem ? Elite means best of the best but currently you don't need to be one of the best elite level teams to stay. You just have to be the best team in a regional division or one of the best two teams in a regional division. Elite does not need to have the same pattern as other leagues. I'd say it has to be different. Each division is made of the same region. Don't force teams (regions) to play in Elite if they are not elite level teams. Change this and create random divisions. No more region based divisions. The best of the best (16 elite level teams) stay, the other 16 go down. Therefore, there could be more than four teams from the same region league 1. Why not ? Why shouldn't they stay in Elite if they are elite level teams ? Add special rules in Elite if needed. There could also be no team from a region league 1. Why not ? Why should they stay in Elite if they are not elite level teams ? Add local rules in region leagues if needed. Playoffs in Elite will have to be different as well. |
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posted: 2019-04-09 06:58:33 (ID: 100138535) Edits found: 3 Report Abuse |
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What you are saying it is true.
Please refer to (Record of teams in different division could not be compared) It is not like Fédération Française de Football ligue 1 where teams plays twice against each other and in the end you can sort the teams by record and compare them. For sure a region can have more than four teams that deserved to be in elite compared to other regions. But how to decide why? Here we have a different formula than football ("soccer" for who is reading from the other side of the ocean) we cannot apply the same way of thinking. What we can say about divisions then? We can have a division in which all the four teams are better than all the other in the whole conference (also in leagues below elite) and for sure one will not even play in the post season ... Last edited on 2019-04-09 07:04:53 by PJRAVENS |
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posted: 2019-04-09 15:09:24 (ID: 100138548) Report Abuse |
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Drogon wrote:
Solana_Steve wrote:
The purpose of promotion and demotion is to direct teams to the level of competition that suits them. So the more levels the better. I think to problem Pete is addressing is that he doesn't think there are 32 "Elite" level teams - - not sure what the solution for that it - - I don't think you can reduce the size of a league to something smaller. Steve SD Blitz We have a situation ! There have been teams with W3-L13 staying in Elite and W11-L5 being relegated directly (R), W6-L10 staying and W10-L6 being relegated directly. Isn't that the problem ? Elite means best of the best but currently you don't need to be one of the best elite level teams to stay. You just have to be the best team in a regional division or one of the best two teams in a regional division. Elite does not need to have the same pattern as other leagues. I'd say it has to be different. Each division is made of the same region. Don't force teams (regions) to play in Elite if they are not elite level teams. Change this and create random divisions. No more region based divisions. The best of the best (16 elite level teams) stay, the other 16 go down. Therefore, there could be more than four teams from the same region league 1. Why not ? Why shouldn't they stay in Elite if they are elite level teams ? Add special rules in Elite if needed. There could also be no team from a region league 1. Why not ? Why should they stay in Elite if they are not elite level teams ? Add local rules in region leagues if needed. Playoffs in Elite will have to be different as well. Maybe a simple first step would be to make entry to the Elite a) optional i.e. a tick box similar to bot flush; b) to get promoted you need to play a promotion game (or series) against teams which are on the relegation list. I have to admit each season I have mixed feelings about (possible) promotion to Elite. Sure going up is great but then I know I will spend 3 months of RL time losing (most) games before getting relegated back to a random division in my former league. |
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