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| posted: 2019-11-16 15:58:50 (ID: 100144737) Report Abuse | |
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probably not. I would use this chance to change things in the database structure as well. That would turn both versions into something incompatible to each other
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LuLuBa
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posted: 2019-11-20 11:33:24 (ID: 100144804) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
There is no yes/no answer. But I can answer why it will take really good arguing to convince me. Any restructure is not just moving teams around divisions or regions. All the mechanisms that cause relegation and so would need work as well. And, I cannot just make a change. I would have to maintain the history. This makes a restructuring an almost impossible thing and this is the reason why I was answering in the past: I would prefer to closing RZA1, and maybe restart with RZA2, over restructuring leagues. Looks like we have to stick with what we have. Starting over with RZA2, probably means loosing a number of managers, which don't want to build a team from scratch. |
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posted: 2020-01-04 15:35:05 (ID: 100145926) Report Abuse |
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the original comment only represents those players suggesting it.
mark me up for 100% against this idea. my reasons are probably shown on every thread suggesting it. unless i ignored it because i was fed up of it being suggested, 
oh yeah, does this new restructure idea include a reboot of the entire league? if so, and i think it would, i'm 100% against it. |
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posted: 2021-04-21 11:32:07 (ID: 100158631) Report Abuse |
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Pete, are you still thinking that there shouldn't be a league restructuring? Right now there are more than 70 bot teams in 1.1 leagues and this number rises.
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| posted: 2021-04-21 16:31:17 (ID: 100158640) Report Abuse | |
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IMO it makes no sense to run this discussion at the end of a season. Teams left the existing structures, new teams applied in D2.x. Thewhole picture will be seen after season rollover.
And to answer: I do not see the need to change to one of the suggestions, since no single one seems to be a real brealthrough, as long as I did not miss any. Much more those suggestions solve the "now-situation", more or less. And there will be a point where the topic will come up again. I do not have the time to make such deep changes every x seasons. I am sorry for that. Right now I see only one way to solve it halfway: allow D2 teams to switch the region. With all the downsides this will bring up, with all the bad feelings that are connected with such a step. And even this won't solve the basic problem: RZA is not drawing the attention of the average 2021 computer player, by the nature of the game itself. |
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posted: 2021-04-22 07:28:29 (ID: 100158664) Report Abuse |
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Thank you for the answer, Pete. I hope you're not taking my question as an offense. It's just sad to see how most of the leagues are full with bots. The difference in strength between the teams in the same league are often too big. It makes a situation when most of the teams have only a small number of competitive games (where they have close to 50/50 ratio of win chance).
I agree with you that RZA is not for an average online gamer and so can't attract many new players who will stay. But I still think that the current league structure is making things worse. It creates a situation where a new manager often can't play against other human teams of the same strength, and veteran managers have almost nothing to do all season, making a perfect season without much trouble. |
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| posted: 2021-04-22 10:43:07 (ID: 100158675) Report Abuse | |
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alexshans84 wrote:
Never ever, no worriesI hope you're not taking my question as an offense. |
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posted: 2021-12-29 08:20:53 (ID: 100163543) Report Abuse |
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alexshans84 wrote:
But I still think that the current league structure is making things worse.. As a new user, I have to agree. If I hadn't dug deeper, joining in it seems like the game is defunct. The D2 leagues are almost entirely made up of bots. New players will thus breeze on up essentially undefeated to D1 only to get tromped all over without a chance of competing against those established teams. There needs to be more of a sense of community and rivalry early on with fellow human controlled teams, as well as an intermediate stepping stone. From my admittedly rookie vantage point, it seems to me that unlike some other indie football management sims out there where you can step in and with good strategy and skill you can instantly start competing, RZA is very much a slow burn with steady but incremental progress until your economy and youth pipeline get into full force. As such, you need to mirror this climb in the challenge level, rather than going directly from too easy to impossible. I understand there are some challenges with consolidating the leagues, but as of now, it is not a great new player experience, and there has to be a way to encourage new players to stay if the game is to continue and thrive. By my count, there are 56 human controlled teams in the D2 leagues, and 86 bot controlled teams in the D1. Meaning that right now, the entirety of the D2 leagues could be removed and there would still be spaces open. |
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| posted: 2021-12-29 12:40:06 (ID: 100163556) Report Abuse | |
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Per now we have 260 users.
The only change I am open for at the moment: Close Level 2 of EACH region. 8 regions, 32 teams each: 256 slots, + 32 teams in Elite So, 288 slots, if I close L2... For my taste this is way to close: 288 vs 260. But we could do that. If we do, I won't reopen L2 again. This might cause the situation, that we create a waiting list for team slots, or people could not join the region where the kickofftime meats their expectation. |
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| posted: 2021-12-29 12:43:59 (ID: 100163557) Report Abuse | |
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The marked regions would cause headaches on removing Level 2 leagues. Managers would have to move, or we would close registering in those regions until their "manager count" is down to 32 or less.
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