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| posted: 2020-06-30 18:48:14 (ID: 100150351) Report Abuse | |
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Typical 4th down might be 4th and 1 or 2 yards and the ball on the opponents 40 (just out of FG range). What's the best option run or pass?
I feel that most people choose to run - - but a lot of the time the defense will s e l e c t 5-3-3. So if your QB has a ~65% completion percentage, maybe you're better throwing more often? Thoughts? Steve SD Blitz |
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posted: 2020-06-30 19:45:37 (ID: 100150352) Report Abuse |
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In order to answer we need a correct statistics of 4& short plays against 5-5-3 around 40 yds to the goal line ...
So how many thousand of plays we need and how many games are needed? This is my S38 stats "1/2/3 & 1" against 5-3-3 (I had no 4&1) Passing plays 15 "new first down"/touchdown 11 = 73.3% Rushing plays 13 "new first down"/touchdown 5 = 38.46% This is my S38 stats "1/2/3 & 2-3" against 5-3-3 (one 4&2-3) Passing plays 16 "new first down"/touchdown 12 = 75% Rushing plays 16 "new first down"/touchdown 6 = 37.5% not enough in order to answer... but to give food of thought I think yes... |
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posted: 2020-07-07 12:03:17 (ID: 100150483) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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there are people here in RZA who have the data to give this answer
I have a 'database' from all games in Thunder 1 for S26 & S27. This shows only 6 plays unfortunately so stastically insignificant. However, if you remove 4th down, there a lot more plays with 1 and 2 yds to go. 126 runs 30 no gain or tackle for loss success rate = 76.2% 85 passes 26 incomplete success rate = 69.5% Last edited on 2020-07-07 12:23:50 by Cheesehead |
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| posted: 2020-07-08 07:32:58 (ID: 100150524) Edits found: 2 Report Abuse | |
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Solana_Steve wrote:
Typical 4th down might be 4th and 1 or 2 yards and the ball on the opponents 40 (just out of FG range). What's the best option run or pass? I feel that most people choose to run - - but a lot of the time the defense will s e l e c t 5-3-3. So if your QB has a ~65% completion percentage, maybe you're better throwing more often? Thoughts? Steve SD Blitz The best option is a TD but sometimes one may need something else. Q4 (leading team) 0:11 4 and 4 to go on own 25, Pierre Crouzet (OC) snaps the ball to Matéo Raimbault (QB), Tom Chauveau (HB/C) gets the ball, he starts running over the right end, the blockers crushed the Defense Line, Tom Chauveau (HB/C) tackled by Gerald Eisler (OLB/L), forward progress: 5 yards, New first down (Singleback Big vs. 3-4-4) more 1:51 4 and 1 to go on opp 30, Pierre Crouzet (OC) snaps the ball to Matéo Raimbault (QB), Matéo Raimbault (QB) selected Teddy Favreau (WR/L) as target, Beniaminio Bolatoga (DE/R) breaks through the line, this outer left pass goes to the receiver, who catches the ball, the tackle was missed by Mark Sabatier (CB/R), this was a 30 yards pass (Singleback Big vs. 5-3-3) more 1:39 touchdown more 15:00 4 and 2 to go on opp 26, Pierre Crouzet (OC) snaps the ball to Matéo Raimbault (QB), who hands off to Richard Bouvard (FB/C), he starts running over the left end, the blockers crushed the Defense Line, there is no SS who could tackle him, Richard Bouvard (FB/C) tackled by Dudley Merriman (CB/R), forward progress: 15 yards, New first down (Goalline O vs. 5-3-3) more 12:26 4 and 1 to go on opp 39, Pierre Crouzet (OC) snaps the ball to Matéo Raimbault (QB), who hands off to Tom Chauveau (HB/C), he starts running over the right end, Tom Chauveau (HB/C) breaks the tackle of Mason Leonard (DE/L), Speedy Salerno (DE/R), there is no SS who could tackle him, Tom Chauveau (HB/C) tackled by Mark Shipley (CB/L), forward progress: 14 yards, New first down (I-formation vs. 5-3-3) more 6:59 4 and 2 to go on opp 23, Pierre Crouzet (OC) snaps the ball to Matéo Raimbault (QB), Matéo Raimbault (QB) selected Corentin Tavernier (WR/R) as target, the pass goes outer right to the receiver, who catches the ball, the tackle was missed by Bohumil Láska (FS/C), the result is a 23 yards pass (Singleback Big vs. 5-3-3) more 6:48 touchdown more Last edited on 2020-07-08 11:35:16 by Drogon |
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