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 posted: 2022-10-01 16:04:24 (ID: 100169828) Report Abuse
I'm STILL put-off from a big game in which my opponent played a 3* Linebacker @ WR - result: 7 Catches / 55 Yards / 0 Drops / TD.
This really should not happen.
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Chrill
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 posted: 2022-10-01 18:54:53 (ID: 100169829)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
That I understand, but isn't it even usual in the NFL to play certain players on different positions? I remember Week 1 of the current season when the Chiefs visited the Cardinals and the Safety of KC had to play Kicker. And players like Deebo Samuel wouldn't be such a force if they were relegated to only play WR.

Since I did not find any information about it: What is the actual penalty for OOP right now?

Last edited on 2022-10-01 18:56:44 by Chrill
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Captain Jack
posted: 2022-10-01 20:14:06 (ID: 100169830) Report Abuse
Check out my game tonight https://redzoneaction.org/football/index.php?page=yourteam&subpage=matchshowstats_o&matchid=101028040

My team vs 1 WR, 1 RB, 1 OL, 1 K, 1 KR and the rest of the squad (50+?) are all DL

Do you really think the stats are realistic for two DLs playing QB?
Some DLs are apparently great at rushing too!
DLs are good at catching!
One DL is a great P!
And one is great at blocking!
Plus the WR and the OL did not play.

To me this makes a nonsense of the game
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 posted: 2022-10-01 20:47:25 (ID: 100169831) Report Abuse
I would like to point out one thing that may have been neglected on this discussion. We need to separate the assigned position and the skills each player has. I did not checked any specific player but maybe some of those DL have high values on other skills (CAT or CAR for example). Those skills are used on the play by play calculation and have a big impact on the outcome. I believe that the OOP penalty lowers those values but in some cases it is not enough to turn a player useless to play OOP.
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 posted: 2022-10-02 00:52:59 (ID: 100169834) Report Abuse
I gotta admit I've never noticed that before.
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BlindLark
posted: 2022-10-02 01:16:17 (ID: 100169835) Report Abuse
Captain Jack wrote:
Check out my game tonight https://redzoneaction.org/football/index.php?page=yourteam&subpage=matchshowstats_o&matchid=101028040

My team vs 1 WR, 1 RB, 1 OL, 1 K, 1 KR and the rest of the squad (50+?) are all DL

Do you really think the stats are realistic for two DLs playing QB?
Some DLs are apparently great at rushing too!
DLs are good at catching!
One DL is a great P!
And one is great at blocking!
Plus the WR and the OL did not play.

To me this makes a nonsense of the game


I don't believe any of the proposed changes would even impact this situation you're describing, because my understanding is that as a new player his players are likely all enjoying the "free position switch" period. To fix this (if it is indeed an issue), we just need to make every player who is on their free position switch automatically benefit from the team's best AC during training, to avoid the necessity of such shenanigans.
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 posted: 2022-10-02 10:04:45 (ID: 100169843) Report Abuse
Since I played a game yesterday against a highly decorated and very good (= high ELO) opponent, I looked up his roster. I noticed that, apart from having a "normal" offense with QB, WR, RB, TE and OL, his almost ENTIRE defense consists of LBs. And his Special Teams Unit is, aside from a Kicker, non-existent.

Another team with high ELO in my league has again a "normal" offense, but the defense is nearly only LBs and A LOT of DLs, too. And again: no special teams players but ONE punter.

It seems that playing personell OOP makes you very successful
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Maynard
posted: 2022-10-02 14:17:29 (ID: 100169847)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
I think we should leave kicker punters out of the equation. The game doesn't have to bow to realism in every facet, and kicker/punter combos are a cool achievement for a GM, and the kind of thing that sets RZA apart from other simulators.

Save the Kicker Punters!!

Thank you

Edit: don't make me roster a KR or G either, please! K thanks

Last edited on 2022-10-02 14:24:34 by Maynard
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