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Rock777
posted: 2015-12-25 03:07:55 (ID: 100064803) Report Abuse
Maybe, but my FS is ~29 in all of the DB skills. Much better than the competition and pretty good for a team at my level.

Worst part is after experimenting by setting the blitz settings really high against (what I thought) was an easy team, I got 0 sacks, . And knocked out of the playoffs. Winning that game would have guaranteed the playoffs, losing guaranteed I was out

I definitely think there is an issue with the run down. A 38 speed WR should not be able to run 80 yards down field unimpeded without at least one player making a play on him...

Last edited on 2015-12-25 03:10:25 by Rock777

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posted: 2015-12-31 03:29:22 (ID: 100065079) Report Abuse
Does anyone blitz safeties? I thought the consensus was that blitzing LBers was considered more efective.

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posted: 2015-12-31 04:10:26 (ID: 100065080) Report Abuse
I was blitzing with both. Especially since I have Fearsome safeties. But I'm thinking I'm going to stop. Especially since I can't control which safety blitzes. Apparently blitzes only work on the pass in this game, and its a death sentence if your FS blitzes, so I think the blitz/safety combo is just broken right now.
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posted: 2015-12-31 16:12:13 (ID: 100065094) Report Abuse
Solana_Steve wrote:
Does anyone blitz safeties? I thought the consensus was that blitzing LBers was considered more efective.

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Just about the only time I find it worthwhile to blitz safeties, personally, is from 3-3-5.
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posted: 2015-12-31 16:43:59 (ID: 100065097) Report Abuse
Rock777 wrote: I think the blitz/safety combo is just broken right now.


In the real world a safety blitz is a BIG gamble especially against a quality team and if you SF blitz out of a 7 or 8 in the box defense.

From what I have experienced I can't say it's broken. If your safety blitz fails and gets burned thats what can happen. Here and in pro ball.

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posted: 2015-12-31 19:22:11 (ID: 100065103) Report Abuse
Solana_Steve wrote:
Does anyone blitz safeties? I thought the consensus was that blitzing LBers was considered more effective.

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I blitzed my safeties on nearly every pass play (using a 3-3-5 defense)...until I got to the Elite League. It did work from time to time at that level, but the O-linemen, FBs, and TEs picked up the blitz far too easily and and the opposing QB almost routinely burned my defense.
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posted: 2015-12-31 22:25:14 (ID: 100065109) Report Abuse
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Rock777 wrote: I think the blitz/safety combo is just broken right now.


In the real world a safety blitz is a BIG gamble especially against a quality team and if you SF blitz out of a 7 or 8 in the box defense.

From what I have experienced I can't say it's broken. If your safety blitz fails and gets burned thats what can happen. Here and in pro ball.



I'm not sure I entirely agree. It depends on formation and who you are blitzing with. There is a big difference between blitzing with the SS and blitzing with the FS. The SS is often keying on a RB or the QB. Blitzing with the SS usually involves switching his responsibility with a LB to confuse the offense about where the blitz is coming from.

If the opponent is only using a WR set, and you are playing a dime, you should have WAY more backfield men than you need and blitzing with one safety should really not be risky.

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posted: 2016-01-01 01:40:01 (ID: 100065117) Report Abuse
Anytime you blitz it reduces the number of defenders covering, increases the area of responsibility and when you remove a safety from coverage it usually reduces the quality of the coverage too (creates mismatches) and It makes more/bigger holes to pass into. So if the blitz doesn't make it then it can be easier to complete a pass and harder to defend against.

Maybe that is more understandable.

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posted: 2016-01-01 03:23:01 (ID: 100065118) Report Abuse
I understood you perfectly the first time. Anytime you blitz with a LB it creates holes in the coverage as well. If you are playing with a Dime, I would say the one LB is just as important as the one SS. And they are going to be covering/keying on similar players. Yes SS blitz is risky, but so isn't a LB blitz. My point is that it is utterly ridiculous to have a FS blitz when you are expecting a pass. I don't think anyone would do that IRL. At least not without having the SS fall back and take over the FS responsibilities.

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posted: 2016-01-01 07:10:10 (ID: 100065120) Report Abuse
Rock777 wrote: My point is that it is utterly ridiculous to have a FS blitz when you are expecting a pass. I don't think anyone would do that IRL. At least not without having the SS fall back and take over the FS responsibilities.


Exactly the point. From what I see RZA isn't broken as for safe blitz. It is simming what would/could happen.

As for which safety - they both are used in blitzes at times to confuse and disguise. And sometimes they work, sometimes they fail and sometimes the offense can make a huge play from it. AND when a FS blitzes the SS will drop in basically a cover 1 in place of the FS BUT the SS normally isn't as good at pass coverage as a FS. It's a risk trying to make a big play that sometimes costs a big play.

I will say we should have the ability to choose if an OLB, MLB, FS or Ss blitzes. It is too general/vague/random and THAT is kind of what could be "fixed".

Last edited on 2016-01-01 07:25:14 by punch drunk

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