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Rock777
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posted: 2016-03-07 19:47:14 (ID: 100069861) Report Abuse |
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If I understand correct, a team can go bot in the middle of the season. This can mess the schedule up pretty good because now teams that have already played against that team had a hard game, while teams that haven't yet played have an easy game. I'm not suggesting that player inactivity settings change, but rather waiting until the end of the year (or when a new player takes over) to reset the team to all scrubs. That way the team would continue to play at a similar level for the rest of the season.
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ausonny
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posted: 2016-03-07 19:58:16 (ID: 100069862) Report Abuse |
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People including me have made the suggestion before when we still had all of the divisions and it was a no go for Pete then. And now with fewer open spots there wouldn't be enough open spots for new teams.
edit to say I am aware you are saying that the spots could be used for new teams, but I have a feeling that that would mean a pretty big code change for Pete. Last edited on 2016-03-07 19:59:30 by ausonny |
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Captain Jack
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posted: 2016-03-07 22:28:00 (ID: 100069870) Report Abuse |
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Rock777 wrote:
If I understand correct, a team can go bot in the middle of the season. This can mess the schedule up pretty good because now teams that have already played against that team had a hard game, while teams that haven't yet played have an easy game. I'm not suggesting that player inactivity settings change, but rather waiting until the end of the year (or when a new player takes over) to reset the team to all scrubs. That way the team would continue to play at a similar level for the rest of the season. I think this is a good suggestion and one that I have put forward before but I think it worth raising again. Recently we had discussions about reshuffling divisions to make them more competitive. One of the reasons that some divisions are not competitive is the extraordinary amount of time that it takes to build up a team. There are a few reasons that it takes so long to build up but one of them is because the new teams are abysmal. Calling them scrubs is an injustice to scrubs. Why, oh why, can we not make a change to this process? My suggestion would be that when the owner walks away the team is designated bot BUT as you have suggested it remains at the same level. They do not train (except PC) but the players remain as they were. This would then make it fairer on all teams in that particular league. Then when a new owner comes along they take over the (now bot) team but the players remain in place. (If no one takes over they stay in limbo - frozen in time). This takeover does not guarantee success because the new owner still needs to get to understand the game and to know why the players are where they are. Doubtless they will not be perfect and without knowing who to train, what to train and why some of the players are even there the new owner is still going to have a lot to work out. They also have to put together a playbook. (However, they will probably not get smashed 150-0 every game). To give an example - I previously played in another game which I left because it ceased to be fun. However, I left my team at the end of the season in perfect condition and we were the strongest team in the division. A new owner took over and managed to win only 2 games in the next season. This was because he didn't understand who my players were, why I had chosen them and how to get the best put of them. So just being handed a team doesn't mean you are going to be successful from day one. |
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| posted: 2016-03-07 22:32:52 (ID: 100069871) Report Abuse | |
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Rock777 wrote:
That way the team would continue to play at a similar level for the rest of the season. It wouldn't, since without any matchorders set, no playbooks are active, no depth chart is active. QBs play Kicker, and RBS go MLB....just the players on the roster are the same. |
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CardinalFever
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posted: 2016-03-08 01:24:08 (ID: 100069873) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
Rock777 wrote:
That way the team would continue to play at a similar level for the rest of the season. It wouldn't, since without any matchorders set, no playbooks are active, no depth chart is active. QBs play Kicker, and RBS go MLB....just the players on the roster are the same. I don't see how that's the case. A player should always pay its given position weather that team is managed or bot. Simply send the team bot at the end of the season. PBs and DC are set by the manager that was in charge. So players in random positions don't come into play. |
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| posted: 2016-03-08 08:36:07 (ID: 100069881) Report Abuse | |
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Not without major writing in the engine.
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Rock777
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posted: 2016-03-08 22:40:51 (ID: 100069930) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
Rock777 wrote:
That way the team would continue to play at a similar level for the rest of the season. It wouldn't, since without any matchorders set, no playbooks are active, no depth chart is active. QBs play Kicker, and RBS go MLB....just the players on the roster are the same. It would certainly play a whole lot better than a bot team with all scrubs. Without any code changes. If I didn't touch my team for the rest of the season I'm certain I would still blow out every bot and newbie by 60+ points. Last edited on 2016-03-08 22:57:05 by Rock777 |
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Rock777
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posted: 2016-03-08 22:50:15 (ID: 100069931) Report Abuse |
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ausonny wrote:
People including me have made the suggestion before when we still had all of the divisions and it was a no go for Pete then. And now with fewer open spots there wouldn't be enough open spots for new teams. edit to say I am aware you are saying that the spots could be used for new teams, but I have a feeling that that would mean a pretty big code change for Pete. Yeah, I'm not even suggesting they don't go bot. They can still go bot, but delay the player flush until the end of the year. And instead of adding a lot of extra logic code, just reflush every bot team at the end of the year. Its not like anyone cares about player continuity on bot teams, they are all short lived anyhow. |
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Rock777
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posted: 2016-03-08 22:55:14 (ID: 100069932) Report Abuse |
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Just guessing, but I think it works like this:
Player group A Team goes bot -> Players flush Player group B Team gets Acquired -> Players flush Player group C Player group B serves no purpose in the game and is really just a waste of resources. Suggested change: Player group A Team goes bot -> nothing Player group A Team gets Acquired (optionally end of year as well if Pete wants bots to demote) -> Player flush Player group B More efficient use of resources & better league continuity. I'm missing what the downside is here Pete? Flushing the bot mid-season messes up the league but doesn't even guarantee demotion... Last edited on 2016-03-08 22:55:35 by Rock777 |
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| posted: 2016-03-08 22:58:58 (ID: 100069933) Report Abuse | |
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End of year/season is out of focus. The season rollover is complicating enough, already.
We can discuss keeping players, but no matchorders, DC or playbook. However, this causes issues...if a team goes bot in Elite or D1, and relegates, it would be a certain issue for newer teams. This is exactly the reason why we reset the whole team including players once the team becomes bot. No matter which way we go down this road...we will run into certain issues soon. |
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