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Poll: Create a tax for seasonal gains of a manager depending on his status and bankroll?,
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| posted: 2017-01-02 00:49:54 (ID: 100094799) Report Abuse | |||||||
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McKay93 wrote:
As I said before, there I could live with a plain tax on all season gains, as long as it is not tied to the bank account (which is the case atm if I understood the current suggestion correctly.) BUT (and pls dont quote just that but and claim I am screaming for no reason) I am against this tax going to players that overspend. If it goes either a) just to non-Top Managers or b) directly out of the game 'm okay with it. Not a fan, but i won't complain either. This suggestion here never was about moving the money, it was about taking it away from the game...do not mix this with Firenzes idea...And no matter if this tax is tied to the bankroll, OR the manager rank, OR the seasons a manager is with us...we just need ONE criteria to not tax "newbees"...the bankroll is the easiest one out of these, since it measures the financial power to pay tax or not...by the financial power. |
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| posted: 2017-01-02 00:52:25 (ID: 100094800) Report Abuse | |||||||
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Meitheisman wrote:
pete wrote:
You are not supposed to overspend 30 seasons, you are supposed to overspend a max of maybe 5 seasons...period! Maybe this could be a new rule? If you overspend for 6 seasons or more you have to pay a tax. No because it is much more complicating to implement, much more complicating to explain, and has too many ways to avoid the tax (just stop overspending one season...). We need the teams to work a little more on their financial edges, not a pillow as huge as Mount Everest... |
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| posted: 2017-01-02 01:01:13 (ID: 100094801) Report Abuse | |||||||
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pete wrote:
Wait... Manager a has income from tickets and so on: 50 million. He spends on expenses: 70 million: Gain: -20 million Manager b has income from tickets and so on: 50 million. He spends on expenses: 30 million: Gain: 20 million It is better to have taxes on both these 50 million??? Every single income tax system in the world works different, because it causes taxes on manager b only, which is my plan...B would pay 10-15% on these 20 million, if he has more than X on his bank account, only. Manager a would pay no single cent. If manager B has less than X on his bank account, he pays nothing as well... Now tell me again, this (my idea) is more crucial than income tax... It is better to have taxes on both these 50 million??? Both have the same income. One has a negative balance. Who is going wrong, the one who has a gain of +20 000 000 ? 
I would like to know if manager A (your exemple) wouldn't have to pay a tax if his bank account is twice as big as manager's B bank account (although manager A has a negative balance) ? Your example given, will there be a special gift for manager A if manager A : - has not built his stadium - has highest possible HC & AC (therefore high expenses), top N°1 in coaches salaries ranking - hasn't a HR dpt - has highest possible wages, top N°1 in players salaries ranking When Yoda becomes Robin Hood, Pete must be mistaken...  |
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| posted: 2017-01-02 01:05:06 (ID: 100094802) Report Abuse | |||||||
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pete wrote:
Based on your number: you ave around 900 million on your account, and plan to overspend 20-30 million per season. This makes you "untouchable" by a team not able to overspend for around 30 to 40 seasons...no, this is not what we want from the competition point of view. Once more, why are you guys so greedy not to give up a little from your GAINS!...Meitheismen would spend exactly nothing on taxes, since his GAINS are below zero... Could someone answer the bold please? I would guess that people don't want to give up some of their gains because they see that as the way of competing with the teams who already have a lot of money. This isn't how i feel, just a guess on how others might be feeling, i could be wrong. |
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posted: 2017-01-02 07:37:56 (ID: 100094812) Report Abuse | ||||||
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Without a defined X, its hard to know how to vote. My team is just starting to ask for big salaries (I grew them from pups). In previous years, I would net 100 million (not counting player sales). That was with a full staff, and fully built academy, and a bunch of facilities. Now I spend more on salaries so it probably wouldn't effect me much, but it seems unfair to young teams that they wouldn't be able to take home their full income. Forcing teams to play a style of pay to win just seems wrong. I enjoyed recruiting a bunch of rookies and raising them up from nothing. But if you take away people's money for doing that, you are forcing them to spend money on players that they don't necessarily even want on their team. Takes away from the enjoyment of the game.
It may not have been how you intended the game to go, but sometimes you just have to release a game to the wild and see how it grows. I'm all for drastically increasing transfer fees. Maybe 50%? |
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| posted: 2017-01-02 07:40:13 (ID: 100094813) Report Abuse | |||||||
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Drogon wrote:
When Yoda becomes Robin Hood, Pete must be mistaken... Haha. Show me a single tax on income system that works different. |
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posted: 2017-01-02 07:46:06 (ID: 100094815) Edits found: 2 Report Abuse | ||||||
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Jumping in here late, but I think I was one of the people who suggested this many, many seasons ago.
I am absolutely against letting players amass huge wealth over many seasons of being frugal. There should be a limit to how many seasons of good management allows one to get to the top level of play. With no limit, the oldest players can essentially outbid any player on the market, or train their players to 50 skills and win a season at will. You can argue this isn't the case, as others have, but I know it to be true. 500 millions sounds very lenient, and I don't really think there's an effective argument for keeping any amount of money in the game's economy above that. Really, it's a compromise, I'd push even further and propose a cap limit, etc. Last edited on 2017-01-02 07:48:40 by jmehnert86 |
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posted: 2017-01-02 07:47:20 (ID: 100094816) Report Abuse | ||||||
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I swear that when I become commissioner there will be no more taxes; (no more than 50% that is)
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posted: 2017-01-02 07:50:49 (ID: 100094817) Report Abuse | ||||||
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That is a good point, given this is only for people with 500 Million, you are talking about teams that are probably at least 5 years old anyhow. Unless they are day trading. Still, I wouldn't have been too happy if I was told after 5 seasons that I had to start buying players I didn't want just to spend my capital.
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posted: 2017-01-02 08:20:07 (ID: 100094821) Report Abuse | ||||||
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Rock777 wrote:
That is a good point, given this is only for people with 500 Million, you are talking about teams that are probably at least 5 years old anyhow. Unless they are day trading. Still, I wouldn't have been too happy if I was told after 5 seasons that I had to start buying players I didn't want just to spend my capital. More likely 10 seasons and to get rid of it 25 seasons overspending. In the most online games inflation is a big problem. Let us do something against before the game balance is totally broken and the game will die slowly. |
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