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gnikeoj
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posted: 2017-01-16 04:09:42 (ID: 100095979) Report Abuse |
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lol, I do the same thing. I rely on my game planning rather than the AI switching.
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| posted: 2017-01-16 11:14:49 (ID: 100095989) Report Abuse | |
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Rock777 wrote:
Yes. That is what I meant I think. If I have 3-4-4 called for both pass and rush in a situation, then that is always going to be called regardless of what the AI thinks. So basically it takes the AI out of the equation. I generally don't rely much on the AI for my defense. Almost all of my defensive play calls are setup up with both the pass and run being the same. I just wasn't sure if there was any extra benefit for actually calling the pass or the run. So essentially, I could just call everything a run and it would have the same effect. Surely if you "prefer" rush all day long, every time the opposition passed, your team would be crowding the box expecting rush and their passing yard averages would be a lot higher therefore?? I think this is a language prob. I read it that the 344 would be called irrespective but that if you call run and they run, you would hold them to lower rush averages than if you called pass and they ran? I defo believe there IS a benefit for calling pass or run (if you know  ), otherwise I've wasted SO many hours creating defensive playbooks for nothing!
 
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jetto
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posted: 2017-01-16 12:08:18 (ID: 100095992) Report Abuse |
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dell_g wrote:
I read it that the 344 would be called irrespective but that if you call run and they run, you would hold them to lower rush averages than if you called pass and they ran? As I understand Pete (german nativspeaker, but not compareable to Pete's language ) it is no difference. Your D will act exact the same if you put one certain formation for both run and pass plays.
If you defiend 2 different formations for one O Formation the engine will rely on your "focus" but will learn to adapt. dell_g wrote:
I defo believe there IS a benefit for calling pass or run (if you know ), otherwise I've wasted SO many hours creating defensive playbooks for nothing!
Well, if you "know" if run or pass will come you still can adapt your D. EG using 5-3-3 for rushing and 3-3-5 or something else for passing plays. Both should work "better" than 3-4-4. But as said above it won't be any difference if you put 3-4-4 for both passing and rushing... |
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jetto wrote:
dell_g wrote:
I read it that the 344 would be called irrespective but that if you call run and they run, you would hold them to lower rush averages than if you called pass and they ran? As I understand Pete (german nativspeaker, but not compareable to Pete's language ) it is no difference. Your D will act exact the same if you put one certain formation for both run and pass plays.
If you defiend 2 different formations for one O Formation the engine will rely on your "focus" but will learn to adapt. dell_g wrote:
I defo believe there IS a benefit for calling pass or run (if you know ), otherwise I've wasted SO many hours creating defensive playbooks for nothing!
it won't be any difference if you put 3-4-4 for both passing and rushing... What is the Prefer button for then, if it doesn't improve your chances of stopping the run when you know it's run, what's the point in preferring rush and putting 533 in both? |
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jetto
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posted: 2017-01-16 12:43:50 (ID: 100095994) Report Abuse |
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dell_g wrote:
What is the Prefer button for then, if it doesn't improve your chances of stopping the run when you know it's run, what's the point in preferring rush and putting 533 in both? The prefer option just "works" if you have two different D formations called. If you use the same formation for buth run and pass it doesn't matter which option you call. |
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| posted: 2017-01-16 12:54:00 (ID: 100095995) Report Abuse | |
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Good, so putting 533 in both when you know they are rushing should help
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jetto
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posted: 2017-01-16 12:57:16 (ID: 100095996) Report Abuse |
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Yes, it helps
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hollyhh2000
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posted: 2017-01-16 13:24:18 (ID: 100095998) Report Abuse |
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jetto wrote:
dell_g wrote:
What is the Prefer button for then, if it doesn't improve your chances of stopping the run when you know it's run, what's the point in preferring rush and putting 533 in both? The prefer option just "works" if you have two different D formations called. If you use the same formation for buth run and pass it doesn't matter which option you call. I do not think so. If a team is expecting run, it will react quicker against the run regardless of formations and have a better chance to stop it than it would have when it is expecting the pass. same against the pass when expecting pass. pretty sure this is implemented in the sim engine (think even Pete mentioned it somewhere, but I cannot find it right now) |
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-01-16 13:55:22 (ID: 100095999) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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That is why I asked the question, but I believe Pete just told us it makes no difference. If you call 5-3-3 they will defend against the run with the same strength regardless of if you set "prefer pass" or "prefer run".
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| posted: 2017-01-16 15:02:22 (ID: 100096003) Report Abuse | |
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I'm giving up in expalining anything, people tent to understand what they like to understand from a statement...
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