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Rock777
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posted: 2017-01-16 15:03:52 (ID: 100096004) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
Maybe your response was unclear. I thought I understood exactly what you said, but there seem to be conflicting opinions. Would really appreciate a second attempt to clarify. Or a confirmation that someone said it back correctly.
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hollyhh2000
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posted: 2017-01-16 15:35:51 (ID: 100096007) Report Abuse |
pete wrote:
I'm giving up in expalining anything, people tent to understand what they like to understand from a statement... If that was directed at me, I am sorry I was so sure, maybe the wording expectation fooled me, and the explanation, I thought you gave may have been for lopsided penalty as both imo should have similar logics the first thing a defender has to do is run / pass recognition. If the defender is expecting a pass, his reaction to the pass will be way quicker (and if he is surprised by the rush, that reaction would be obviously slower) however, if that was the case in the playbooks, there would be also missing a neutral expectation |
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posted: 2017-01-16 15:44:35 (ID: 100096009) Report Abuse | |
hollyhh2000 wrote:
No!If that was directed at me, I am sorry |
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-01-16 16:01:38 (ID: 100096011) Report Abuse |
No, not directed at him specifically? or No, you were correct Holly...? |
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-01-16 16:08:36 (ID: 100096015) Report Abuse |
Then if it was directed at me, I would simply appreciate knowing that I have the wrong interpretation. I don't "want" to understand it one way or the other. I just want to understand. Period. English is one of the most unclear languages out there. But I blame our forefathers, the Germans who created our language in the first place
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posted: 2017-01-16 16:21:28 (ID: 100096017) Report Abuse | |
When I have pass D called and face a run play than it's usually a good gain if my DL doesn't get them.
If I have a run D called and it's a pass then it's usually a completed pass. If I have a run D called and it's a run often it's a short/no gain/loss. If I have a pass D called and it's a pass sometimes it's a less successful pass. A LOT of it all depends on the opposition skill/exp level. VS. really good teams it doesn't seem to matter a huge amount. Vs weaker teams it's a complete shutdown. Vs equal teams it's mostly all play book. Have you not noticed that trend? |
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-01-16 16:32:57 (ID: 100096020) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
No, I generally call the same defense for run or pass in any given situation, so I would have no way to determining that.
For instance in my last game. I was very confident that my opponent would pass out of Flexbone in every situation except for 2nd down, so my play book looked like this: any 2 any any any any Flexbone 5-3-3 5-3-3 rush 0 % 0 % any 1 any any any any Flexbone 3-3-5 3-3-5 pass 75 % 0 % any any any any any any Flexbone 3-4-4 3-4-4 pass 50 % 0 % In every situation I have the same play for rushing and for passing. There is no way for me to tell which one was actually called. Last edited on 2017-01-16 16:33:26 by Rock777 |
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Buddy Ryan
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posted: 2017-01-16 16:36:26 (ID: 100096023) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
pete wrote:
Unless this prediction is ...clear enough, the settings is not relevant. But if the pass/rush ratio is equal in the situation, the pass/rush settings comes into play again... but isnt there only one way to read this? this statement says, that there is no pass/rush-adjustment in the selected ("prefered") formation itself, the "prefer"-setting only matters for the selection of the formation (what is set for pass and rush). but I also remember a posting from pete way back in a discussion about SG4-runs where he said that the prefer-setting does adjust for run/pass (like LBs, DBs playing closer to the LoS when run is expected and so on) Last edited on 2017-01-16 16:38:14 by Buddy Ryan |
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posted: 2017-01-16 16:38:26 (ID: 100096024) Report Abuse | |
What do you mean you have no way to tell??
You know what defense you had preferred - compare it to the results on the field. Thats how you would know. Must have been good for you. Looks like you beat a strongly rated team. |
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-01-16 16:39:29 (ID: 100096025) Report Abuse |
That is what I thought as well Buddy, but Holly and Punch are both saying the opposite. And I *think* Pete just said Holly was right...
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