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Rock777
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posted: 2017-01-16 16:41:24 (ID: 100096026) Report Abuse |
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I called 99% of his plays correctly. I usually call 80-90% of the plays correctly, but still frequently lose to weaker rated teams.
And no. I can't tell if it called 5-3-3 expecting pass, or 5-3-3 expecting run. |
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Rock777 wrote:
I called 99% of his plays correctly. I usually call 80-90% of the plays correctly, but still frequently lose to weaker rated teams. And no. I can't tell if it called 5-3-3 expecting pass, or 5-3-3 expecting run. Well your last win was surely a playbook victory with a good random luck. And yes you can tell if YOU called for a pass a run D. |
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-01-16 16:45:09 (ID: 100096029) Report Abuse |
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I think you are confused Punch. The whole point of this post is asking whether or not it makes a difference if your team is expecting the run or the pass. Not which play was called. There is no way to tell if my team played 5-3-3 expecting the run or if they played 5-3-3 expecting the pass. I told them to play 5-3-3 regardless of what they thought was coming.
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| posted: 2017-01-16 16:46:38 (ID: 100096030) Report Abuse | |
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Rock777 wrote:
I think you are confused Punch. The whole point of this post is asking whether or not it makes a difference if your team is expecting the run or the pass. Not which play was called. There is no way to tell if my team played 5-3-3 expecting the run or if they played 5-3-3 expecting the pass. I told them to play 5-3-3 regardless of what they thought was coming. But you did set a preference... |
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-01-16 16:51:04 (ID: 100096032) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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Right. And I am trying to find out if that preference means anything when you setup a playbook the way I do. If I call the same defensive play for passing and rushing all the time, then does it even matter which preference I give. Holly believes that it does. Pete is being unclear.
Just because I call a preference of Run, doesn't mean the AI expects a run every time. Sometimes they were expecting the pass, but called 5-3-3 because that is what I told them to do in a passing situation. Last edited on 2017-01-16 16:52:06 by Rock777 |
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-01-16 16:57:50 (ID: 100096033) Report Abuse |
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Buddy Ryan wrote:
but I also remember a posting from pete way back in a discussion about SG4-runs where he said that the prefer-setting does adjust for run/pass (like LBs, DBs playing closer to the LoS when run is expected and so on) Holly referenced this as well. Unfortunately no one has the link to the post. But if this is actually correct, then the preference does matter. This is the answer I was trying to get from Pete, but he was being cryptic as Yoda always is  |
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thomastem
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posted: 2017-01-16 16:58:47 (ID: 100096034) Report Abuse |
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Let me give you what the math has showed me and then Pete can come on and give any point numbers that may be wrong.
1. Prefer gives the defense no bonus for guessing correct or disadvantage for guessing wrong. 2. For each PB command on defense you set a formation to use against. The engine will take from pass or rush based on what the opponent does. if they run more than pass in this command situation it pulls your rush formation regardless of preferred. 3. Preferred formation is used the first time a command situation occurs because there is no tendency yet. Opponent has run 0 and passed 0 times equals no tendency therefor use preferred. 4. As game progresses a tendency may show itself. When this happens preferred is ignored and tendency is used. Example. I form has 5-3 for run and 3-3 for pass with pass preferred. 1 st time I comes up 3-3 is Defense used. If opponent is running out of I mainly , First 5 plays 4 are run and 1 pass then engine is using run defense as there is a tendency. Now if opponent passes out of the I the next 3 times and engine sees 4 run and 4 pass there is no tendency so preferred is now used again. The manual is nice but compiling math is the only sure way to understand engine and must always be done to keep up with changes. Math is the light in the darkness and I was happy to light your path today. hi Steve! |
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-01-16 17:02:01 (ID: 100096035) Report Abuse |
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Ok... So more conflicting info. I lean towards believing the math over interpretations of a post that Pete made sometime in the distant past. Anyone have a link to that post...? Even if we look at it now, we might still be misinterpreting...
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thomastem
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posted: 2017-01-16 17:10:00 (ID: 100096036) Report Abuse |
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If my points are true I think most will understand my post clearly and pete just needs to give us a confirmation and he can get back to his beer and women and be done trying to explain. If my points are wrong then I view that as more tracking needs to be done to understand and Pete can still go back to his beer and women.
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-01-16 17:11:52 (ID: 100096037) Report Abuse |
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#1 is the one I was asking the question about. I am positive that the rest of your points are correct.
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