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| posted: 2018-01-26 21:38:38 (ID: 100122691) Report Abuse | |
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Buddy Ryan wrote:
JonnyP wrote:
Bring on #12 
What a performance by Philly last night. The 1st 20 minutes of the game was pretty even, but from then on, they made a very good term look utterly ordinary. Foles was clinical, Ajayi fought for every fraction of a yard, and the entire D was suffocating. And that flea-flicker TD to Torrey Smith was truly a thing of beauty. yeah, insane performance  what kind of sorcery is Pederson performing on Foles... for a back up of a MVP caliber QB to take his team to the SB, thats just unheard of. if the eagles win it all, wouldnt that be the weirdest thing? "yeah this team is so good, the didnt even need their MVP at QB"  That did at least happened once in the past with the 1990 NY Giants. They lost their Star QB Phil Simms in week 15 and the Backup did win all remaining games to become Super Bowl Champ against the favored Buffalo Bills. |
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| posted: 2018-01-26 21:58:52 (ID: 100122693) Report Abuse | |
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Some other guy had the same idea and made a top 10 list.
I think the list is not totally fair, since there are some proven starters reclaiming their starting role after injuries on it, but it includes some great names. Top 10 Backups for Superbowl The NY Giants Backup was Jeff Hostetler. Also interesting on that list is Tom -G.O.A.T-, Kurt Warner, Trent Dilfer and at that time most amazing for me Doug Williams. |
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Buddy Ryan
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posted: 2018-01-29 14:12:01 (ID: 100122773) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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yeah, sure backups have won the SB, but did any of them replace a guy who was considered a MVP candidate at the time, or an elite QB? (dont think Simms, Green, Bledsoe were)
my point was that usually teams with great QB play depend on those performances and dont recover from such injuries, but the Eagles roster and coaching are so good they have a chance to win it all anyway, that seems just crazy Last edited on 2018-01-29 15:06:55 by Buddy Ryan |
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| posted: 2018-01-29 16:24:05 (ID: 100122776) Report Abuse | |
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Phil Simms was for sure at that time considered to be an elite QB, he was a Superbowl MVP and was on the road to another fine season and a Superbowl visit.
Sure he was not Marino, Elway or Montana, but still NY was happy to have him. Bledsoe and Green were at least considered to be very good. |
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Buddy Ryan
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posted: 2018-01-29 16:43:04 (ID: 100122777) Report Abuse |
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jack6 wrote:
Phil Simms was for sure at that time considered to be an elite QB, he was a Superbowl MVP and was on the road to another fine season and a Superbowl visit. Sure he was not Marino, Elway or Montana, but still NY was happy to have him. Bledsoe and Green were at least considered to be very good. hmm okay, maybe its just my bias that build up over years of agonizing over Simms commentary I dont know enough about that era and I'm not saying he was a bad QB, but even considering the different era he played in, his stats dont look impressive (21-22 TD-INT ratio in his single All Pro Season). Joe Flacco for example was also a SB MVP, but its just one game (and one great postseason run, granted), so do we consider him "elite"?
or maybe its just a different definition of "elite": imo its guys who can keep up with the very best of their era (like for example Roethlisberger, Rivers sure do in comparison to -G.O.A.T-, Manning, Brees), but my sense was that Simms was a tier below that maybe, could be wrong of course  |
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| posted: 2018-01-29 17:23:42 (ID: 100122779) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |
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I agree with Buddy, to do it over time and again, with different coaches and able to be a winner consistently . The term elite is thrown around way too much.
Simms won under Bill Parcells who had Bill Bellicheck under his wing running the dominate defense that helped them win that Superbowl. Parcells was good but I think Bellicheck is the man. Last edited on 2018-01-29 17:25:07 by skeetz |
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| posted: 2018-02-04 15:53:42 (ID: 100123190) Report Abuse | |
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Patroits 25 Eagles 31
I think Scwhartz the Eagles defensive coach will give the Patroits and -G.O.A.T- more than they can handle. Reich the Eagles offensive coach , I think can match Belicheck and McDaniels blow for blow more talent. The game will be out of reach when the Patriots score to bring it to within one score , but too late. Don't bet on it tho. |
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posted: 2018-02-04 19:00:18 (ID: 100123197) Report Abuse |
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skeetz wrote:
I agree with Buddy, to do it over time and again, with different coaches and able to be a winner consistently . The term elite is thrown around way too much. Simms won under Bill Parcells who had Bill Bellicheck under his wing running the dominate defense that helped them win that Superbowl. Parcells was good but I think Bellicheck is the man. Simms was never Elite he was a good QB no more. NYG won Superbowl thanks to their Running game and a savage D. Parcels installed the 3-4 in NY when he was DC under Ray Perkins. He did it to maximise the talents of the greatest Defender to have ever played LT and that player changed football forever. Belichek was a student and most trusted lieutenant for more than a decade of Parcells and learnt how to coach D under him. The key for the Eagles will be pressure especially inside pressure. If they win the real MP will be Fletcher Cox but it will go to an Offensive player. Cox is the key to this Superbowl for me and if he can dominate and disrupt the pocket of will allow the rest of the Philly line to wreck havoc in the backfield then the Eagles have a shot. I would look to head hunt Gronk early, I want him to be thinking of his safety and knowing he has an edge rattle him and maybe get him to cross the line. I want to take away the short game from -G.O.A.T- and make him go deep knowing my Four man rush can bring the heat against a solid not great OL. That will take the pressure of Foles. The key to Foles is constructing early simple rythmn throws allowing him to settle into the game quickly |
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| posted: 2018-02-04 20:32:00 (ID: 100123205) Report Abuse | |
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Seems like there are a lot of anti-Patriot fans going into the big game - - so I guess the sentiment is strongly with the Eagles.
For me, it's just difficult to pick the Eagles with the disparity at QB. Foles is one of the better backup QBs, but compared to -G.O.A.T-, I just think you must favor New England. Steve SD Blitz |
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posted: 2018-02-05 03:02:31 (ID: 100123211) Report Abuse |
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Throw more batteries at santa 4 the win
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