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Lamba
posted: 2017-03-16 15:29:24 (ID: 100100549) Report Abuse
Hey.

As some of you knows, I'm in contact with a handful of managers in this game, being a rookie and all.

However, we're getting near the end of the (imo) most exciting part of Football and I'm at a point where I'm unsure what to look for.

Below is a link to the day 3 candidates as well as a cut out of a mail with my thoughts about day 3, which was sent to another manager a few minutes ago - and which inspired me to open this topic.

As a rookie with a system, the first day(s) were rather easy and I, imo, got two defensive beasts.

The questions now is what I do on day 3. I have the 13th pick (because I wasn't smart enough to take the lowest ranked bot when I signed up) so a top 3 most likely won't cut it for me.

In the other rounds, I managed complete packages with really good physicals and intangibles. In this round, it's more likely that I would have to settle for either, as I see the players.

My top 5 is:
DL Kraus
OL Borlen
QB Salazar
RB Stephens
RB Calvo

Last three are interchangeable (they're marked in bold and italics in the spreadsheet). The question is, who should be after them, and why? Are intangibles (INT and TW) more important than higher physicals, or should I go for most power right away, due to poor facilities?

No matter who I pick of the remaining 32, he'll be a starter - the question is just who.

Add1: Draft Day 3 spreadsheet in Google docs (click)

Add2: Cut out from a mail I sent another manager.
As far as I understand the manual, strength says something about a QB's throwing power, so I'm a bit unsure if any of the QBs is really worth it for me.

I REALLY like that Salazar is 50 TW and 44 INT to go with his 5 star talent. Even with a new club like mine, he could become a decent player.

I was wondering, though, if I wasn't better off getting a bellcow RB - mainly because they just look a little better.

My bold markings, OL Dan Borlen and DL Patrick Kraus, are mainly marked because their physicals are really good for what they do.

The only knock on Kraus is his low TW (23.5) and average INT (38.7). If a DL-dude uses TW, I'd have to move him and the question is wether he's good enough then. I already drafted two defensive players with great physicals and decent enough talent. Adding Krause could be a good start for a dominant defense in a new club. Having 50 speed right away is beastly and near max strength too. I could slot him into CB, LB, whatever really. As far as I understood, for most defensive players it's positioning, tackling and vision that's the most important and his two best technical skills are vision and tackling at 28.8 and 28.7. So he COULD become a really good starter for me.

As you might get the idea, he's sort of the guy my head put at #1.

For the others, it's mainly down to me not knowing wether I should draft offense or not. RBs Calvo or Stephens. Stephens wins in every category, except INT and TW. I REALLY like that Stephens is 50 speed right away. Both of them have decent (16-17.5) catching too, so if their STR sucks, I can just convert to WR and train them in catching. Both would become my KR/PR guys right away too.

So to sum up as I see my top 5;

1. DL Kraus
2-5. QB Salazar, OL Borlen, RBs Calvo and Stephens

I wish I could seperate the ones after Kraus, but there's just different things about them that intrigues me.

I won't get other decent players for my team for the coming season, so just getting a QB most likely won't help me much. I'm not sure if a RB is the solution either. Starting my OL with a 3rd rounder is most likely not worth a lot either. And that's pretty much why Kraus is atop the board (in my head).

What does get the 4 offensive players on the board, ahead of the other 27 players, is this;
OL Borlen: He's simply decent overall. High 40s STR, INT, TW and good positional skills.
RB Stephens: 50 strength and good enough skills right away, would be my bellcow for a handful of seasons, if not his entire career. TW and INT in the mid 30s though.
RB Calvo: Just a notch lower than Stephens in everything, but INT and TW which is both 47.5+.
QB Salazar ~40 SPD and STR, low'ish (25-26) positional stats, but decent INT and max TW helps along with 5 star talent.

Aside from all that, I'm intrigued by the #1 guy, WR Shomko. He's fast, he's got track star and is overall decent. Low TW means he wasn't marked.

Pretty much for all the rest, including those you mentioned, I'm down to the question "What's most important?". What I see is underdeveloped physicals or semi-bad intangibles. My focus on the physicals stems from that if I take a 47 SPD/STR guy, he can't get worse. If I pick up a double 40, I don't know if he'll max at 42 in both or so - which would be good enough for me short term, but for long term?

So I'm inclined to focus more on the physicals, than for example a mediocre looking guy (like QB Salazar tbh), but who has 40+ in TW and hopefully some INT too.

So... in not-that-short, that's why I asked if you have time. I think a lot. I overthink sometimes too.
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Yashin
Bracciano Lakers

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posted: 2017-03-16 15:57:30 (ID: 100100551) Report Abuse
Third day pick is almost only luck.
In the first two days you have good perspective about physical of a player and you can minimize risk of capped skill by choosing wisely.
In the third day only players with 40-47 skills appear and since there's no way to understand if they are uncapped, yellow or red you have to cross your fingers and choose.
That's why TW, INT and traits (if any) are my primary choices. They cannot be better neither worse than that.
In your status, whichever the physical stats, any drafted player will be better than any starters you had so far, so no stress, choose freely.

This is my 6th draft and the third pick has almost always been a player too slow to develop (in the best case) or capped at too low levels and they have been moved to the TM or cut, in the majority of cases.
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amalric7
posted: 2017-03-16 16:02:52 (ID: 100100552) Report Abuse
Luck certainly explains why a player like Kraus with 49.3 STR & 50 SPD, plus 3.5*EXP at age 22, is still available in round 3. That guy is top fifteen material IMO. I agree he should be your top choice. After him I'd have Stephens second, 50 SPD and also 3.5*EXP and decent enough INT & TW.
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Lamba
posted: 2017-03-16 16:07:55 (ID: 100100553) Report Abuse
amalric7 wrote:
Luck certainly explains why a player like Kraus with 49.3 STR & 50 SPD, plus 3.5*EXP at age 22, is still available in round 3. That guy is top fifteen material IMO. I agree he should be your top choice.

The only knock on him, really, is his 23 TW and INT. Neither is impressive, although it could definately be worse.
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amalric7
posted: 2017-03-16 16:12:06 (ID: 100100554) Report Abuse
You can ignore the poor TW with those physicals, and 38.7 INT is plenty good enough. That guy would be a stud on your team.
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Yashin
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posted: 2017-03-16 16:14:23 (ID: 100100556) Report Abuse
If he go undrafted until turn 13th ... well mate you would have a great gift.
If there are 12 bots before you, you have some chance, otherwise start to think for a B-plan.
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Lamba
posted: 2017-03-16 16:15:25 (ID: 100100557) Report Abuse
amalric7 wrote:
You can ignore the poor TW with those physicals, and 38.7 INT is plenty good enough. That guy would be a stud on your team.

The first two I drafted are actually rather similar to him.

25 and 33 TW, but INT is at 42 and 50. A DL and LB.

I had somehow overseen TW on those fellas.

But yeah, any player I draft will be an instant starter anyways.

Btw, another question: If I have a level 20 scout and scout a draft prospect, will I get those yellow exclamation marks to see if they're close to physical maximums or not? And is it 5 or 10 points?
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Lamba
posted: 2017-03-16 16:17:12 (ID: 100100558) Report Abuse
Yashin wrote:
If he go undrafted until turn 13th ... well mate you would have a great gift.
If there are 12 bots before you, you have some chance, otherwise start to think for a B-plan.

Yeah.

I'm working on making a list of at least 10 players, preferably 13.

As I mentioned in that WoT in post 1, those five are just the guys I imagine will be my top 5. I'm trying to figure out the next 5-8 guys, primarily.
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Yashin
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posted: 2017-03-16 16:19:52 (ID: 100100559) Report Abuse
Lamba wrote:
Btw, another question: If I have a level 20 scout and scout a draft prospect, will I get those yellow exclamation marks to see if they're close to physical maximums or not? And is it 5 or 10 points?


Unfortunately no. The scout cannot check into future

The level20 scout provides you a 5 pts warning only on your own players (roster + YA) with the yellow flag.
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CheramieIII
posted: 2017-03-16 17:59:39 (ID: 100100568) Report Abuse
put your blindfold on and stand in front of your dart board with the names of the 5 players on it and throw your dart at the board. Whomever the dart is closer to is it!
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