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Fincyril
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posted: 2017-05-03 11:12:28 (ID: 100103262) Report Abuse |
Losing on purpose is just wrong. It does not matter how you proceed.
Closing the stadium is actually a good idea. No supporter would pay a ticket to see his team not even trying... |
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hollyhh2000
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posted: 2017-05-03 11:22:35 (ID: 100103263) Report Abuse |
Fincyril wrote:
Losing on purpose is just wrong. It does not matter how you proceed. Closing the stadium is actually a good idea. No supporter would pay a ticket to see his team not even trying... But there is a fine line as playing your young guys in order to see what you have for next season is quite normal, once you have no chance to reach the postseason. With playing your young guys, you accept that you have a lesser chance to win, but your fans will non the less show up as they are also keen to see how the young guys perform in live action. |
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posted: 2017-05-03 11:38:36 (ID: 100103264) Report Abuse | |
hollyhh2000 wrote:
With playing your young guys, you accept that you have a lesser chance to win, but your fans will non the less show up as they are also keen to see how the young guys perform in live action. That is the point...don't disappoint your fans by screwing your tactics that way |
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gabriel06
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posted: 2017-05-03 11:39:44 (ID: 100103265) Report Abuse |
which is fine if you play youngsters with a proper playbook to see how they truly perform as a guideline....but no young or weak team would concede the amount of points the OP did - there is a distinct difference between doing what he did and playing youngsters 'properly'.
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posted: 2017-05-03 13:07:25 (ID: 100103266) Report Abuse | |
There is no fine line..
You can play rookies and still try to win. You can try new tactics and still try to win. It's unsportsmanlike to intentionally lose in RL and it's basically cheating to do it on an online game. |
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thomastem
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posted: 2017-05-03 13:38:37 (ID: 100103271) Report Abuse |
punch drunk wrote:
There is no fine line.. You can play rookies and still try to win. You can try new tactics and still try to win. It's unsportsmanlike to intentionally lose in RL and it's basically cheating to do it on an online game. I agree with this 100% against human players. Play youth but PB is designed to succeed against the opponent. Perhaps if we had a modifier, call it culture, where a team can be severely scarred for throwing a game against another human opponent. Teams do build a winning or losing culture over time. The Browns would be example of a losing culture while the Patriots a winning. That said, I do not get the hypocrisy of the same with bots. They are purposely designed to lose. That somehow is not only okay in the community but preferred over allowing the team to finish the season as they were before going inactive. If we have bots disrespecting the integrity of the game as such then turnabout is fair play against said bots. And trust me, it is much more challenging, and therefor entertaining to lose to a bot than beat one. |
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gabriel06
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posted: 2017-05-03 14:10:17 (ID: 100103274) Report Abuse |
you didn't play against a BOT though.
and two wrongs have never made one right. |
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thomastem
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posted: 2017-05-03 15:23:46 (ID: 100103278) Report Abuse |
gabriel06 wrote:
you didn't play against a BOT though. and two wrongs have never made one right. What do you mean? First, I'm not OP and won my last game. Maybe you are mixing me with OP? Second you say two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps you could enlighten me on who is wronged when you "tank" against a bot late in the season in a game that has no playoff implications to gain experience for young defensive players? If you want to say it's breaking a rule fine. If it's a language misunderstanding also fine. In English that phrase brings a meaning of moral obligation to society which is different than simply breaking or bending a rule. Are you really trying to say that tanking against a bot in a situation that affects no humans is breaking a moral obligation to the RZA community? A little long winded, I apologize, but my point is that there is a difference between tanking against a bot and a human, especially if it affects playoff races. If you want to voice displeasure at not following the rules, by all means point it out. But let's not act like the RZA community has been wronged if someone tanks against a bot. Also I wonder where the outrage is when a team goes inactive in the middle of the season and that inactive team is set to tank the balance of the season affecting playoff races in just about every league in every season? There we do find human players being wronged. |
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-05-03 15:35:32 (ID: 100103279) Report Abuse |
thomastem wrote:
Also I wonder where the outrage is when a team goes inactive in the middle of the season and that inactive team is set to tank the balance of the season affecting playoff races in just about every league in every season? That is exactly why I had proposed holding off on bottizing a team until the end of the season. But unfortunately Pete didn't want to add extra tasks to the season flip. |
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thomastem
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posted: 2017-05-03 15:45:23 (ID: 100103280) Report Abuse |
Rock777 wrote:
thomastem wrote:
Also I wonder where the outrage is when a team goes inactive in the middle of the season and that inactive team is set to tank the balance of the season affecting playoff races in just about every league in every season? That is exactly why I had proposed holding off on bottizing a team until the end of the season. But unfortunately Pete didn't want to add extra tasks to the season flip. Okay. I was told when I first joined RZA that a poll was taken and that that vast majority of community voted to have bots as they currently are, an automated tanking team. If the reason, or one of the reasons is because it can't be done or is very difficult to do technically or is time intensive to Pete then there is no reason for me to bring this up from time to time. If it is because the majority of the community wants inactive teams to tank with the bot function then the same community has no right to have outrage when a human tanks against a bot and it doesn't affect any other humans negatively. Perhaps I have misunderstood the reason why bots are as they are? |
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