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MonsterT95
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posted: 2017-05-19 15:00:50 (ID: 100104647) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
pete wrote:
Oh, don't get me wrong. I am all for trading, and implemented all the needed stuff back in 2009. But when we ran the tests, it was clear very fast you cannot calculate values of players. This is the main issue. The calculated minimum sales price works because you can overbid it once you think a player has value. The minimum price is in no way kind of a good value to determine the value of a player during trades. Agree at 100 % No way à 32yo, 2 500 000 M$ Punter is more valuable than à 24yo, around 28 skills WR, yet their "starting price" would suggest thé Punter is far more valuable ! this is one problem on the RZA TM* Last edited on 2017-05-19 15:02:01 by MonsterT95 |
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gabriel06
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posted: 2017-05-19 16:39:52 (ID: 100104649) Report Abuse |
Agree there are too many variables and extremes for it to be used in its current state.....but it could be a good start off point and the mechanics I wouldn't imagine be too hard to adapt to, if you can get the increments and values right?
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posted: 2017-05-19 17:43:28 (ID: 100104656) Report Abuse | |
maybe 2 ys ago I was doing some calculations. I found the value of a player is not determined by his skills mainly. It is "point in season", and "number of interested managers" that create a pricing... I really doubt I could come up with a formula to create a fair price comparision between two players. On top, I found managers buy different player positions at different points in the season...
Yes, this sounds like finding excuses...but believe me, I was not able to come up with something I could call "halfway good" |
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andrew2scott2
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posted: 2017-05-19 18:27:04 (ID: 100104660) Edits found: 2 Report Abuse |
Pete I am sure you could come up with something.
Then with help from some of the users.We could fine tune it. Into some thing that would allow trading. With in limits Last edited on 2017-05-19 18:28:28 by andrew2scott2 |
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andrew2scott2
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posted: 2017-05-19 20:34:49 (ID: 100104683) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
I am great with numbers. And excel. I am sure I could come up with some thing. Base on my draft excel sheet. That would be great to giving each player a value. Base on potential,potion all weighted int str,spd,agl.3 top non physical skills,And age.
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posted: 2017-05-19 20:44:13 (ID: 100104690) Report Abuse | |
OK, if you want to accept the challenge, just try to predict the final sales price of a bunch of guys from the transfer market. I was never able to do that in a satisfying way...
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Stanford87
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posted: 2017-05-19 20:44:17 (ID: 100104691) Report Abuse |
andrew2scott2 wrote:
I am great with numbers. And excel. I am sure I could come up with some thing. Base on my draft excel sheet. That would be great to giving each player a value. Base on potential,potion all weighted int str,spd,agl.3 top non physical skills,And age. But to do this you would need to know the value of a skill in this players specific skill set and determining this value is pretty much impossible as there are countless variations. i.e. a 25 yo player with 45 Str, 35 Spd, 40 TW and 30 POS, 30 FOOT and 30 BLOCK is quite ok, but a 25 yo player with 35 Str, 45 Spd, 40 TW and the exact same skills is mostly useless. |
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andrew2scott2
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posted: 2017-05-19 21:10:58 (ID: 100104695) Report Abuse |
Stanford87 wrote:
not true I'll give you example why I get to my pc tonightandrew2scott2 wrote:
I am great with numbers. And excel. I am sure I could come up with some thing. Base on my draft excel sheet. That would be great to giving each player a value. Base on potential,potion all weighted int str,spd,agl.3 top non physical skills,And age. But to do this you would need to know the value of a skill in this players specific skill set and determining this value is pretty much impossible as there are countless variations. i.e. a 25 yo player with 45 Str, 35 Spd, 40 TW and 30 POS, 30 FOOT and 30 BLOCK is quite ok, but a 25 yo player with 35 Str, 45 Spd, 40 TW and the exact same skills is mostly useless. |
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andrew2scott2
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posted: 2017-05-19 23:03:29 (ID: 100104708) Edits found: 3 Report Abuse |
andrew2scott2 wrote:
Stanford87 wrote:
not true I'll give you example why I get to my pc tonightandrew2scott2 wrote:
I am great with numbers. And excel. I am sure I could come up with some thing. Base on my draft excel sheet. That would be great to giving each player a value. Base on potential,potion all weighted int str,spd,agl.3 top non physical skills,And age. But to do this you would need to know the value of a skill in this players specific skill set and determining this value is pretty much impossible as there are countless variations. i.e. a 25 yo player with 45 Str, 35 Spd, 40 TW and 30 POS, 30 FOOT and 30 BLOCK is quite ok, but a 25 yo player with 35 Str, 45 Spd, 40 TW and the exact same skills is mostly useless. Now plugin in his data this result for 2 25yo ol on my draft board. 45 str come to 34.25 while the 35 str comes up to 30.75. My board wants to rate the 35str guy as a rb. I am not saying it would be for me. As it would take trail and error. And It can be done. But before i could come up with anything. The thing i would need to know. 1 Whats a fair age range? Need to defind an age groups 2 Does XP need to be a factor? 3 Do we need factors that vaule you the trade at very postion. Then use the highest one for trade. many questions. Again it could be done in a way that makes trade possable for one player for one player or two players for two players. But one player for two player would become a probelm. With my methods Last edited on 2017-05-20 12:07:45 by andrew2scott2 |
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gabriel06
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posted: 2017-05-20 11:00:37 (ID: 100104735) Report Abuse |
It should be one player for one player only. Keep it simple.
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