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janos
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posted: 2017-07-07 14:17:07 (ID: 100109370) Report Abuse |
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The point of a manager in RZA is to achieve the highest possible experience for his players, while maintaining the wage limit.
Premium YA per definition gives a boost to youth experience, so that helps a lot in the early development of players. My suggestion focuses on increasing experience in later development cycles of the players. Top teams, mainly in Elite League have the privilege to go far in every competition they enter, SuperCup and ChampionsCup as well, while teams trying to close the gap do not have CC for example. What about defining a competition that is similar to Europa League in soccer, while CC is still there for "Champions League" participants. This would be a cup competition despite my naming. The participants could be nominated based on their final league ranking in every league from Elite downto the league structure tree. Probable qualification method: There are 8 leagues all goes down to lvl3. If we focus only on lvl1 and lvl2, that is 24 leagues all together+1 (Elite League). (Lvl3 leagues are all bot as of now anyway.) From each league 1st and 2nd qualifies to CC. For eg.: 3-7 ranked teams are selected from every league can go to this secondary global cup. This is 5 teams in 25 leagues. So a ca. 128 team (7 round) competition could be organized. (Later we may modify the qualification rules, if lvl3 leagues are populated.) I think it would not cause real problems in scheduling, while these games could run at the same time as CC matches. And we still have freedom as, the CC is a 6 round cup only organized on Fridays. The only issue is the exact number of participants, and the round slots we have throughout the season. Please comment. Thanks for reading. |
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| posted: 2017-07-08 09:29:42 (ID: 100109394) Report Abuse | |
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So you simply suggest to have a second grade CoC?
That gives those teams more money and exp. My question is: why introduce this? Right now there are the Coc teams getting the extra, now you simply want to add another 128 teams. That would give a lot of teams the chance to maintain their status and keeping the new contenders on arm length away. |
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-07-08 14:42:23 (ID: 100109406) Edits found: 2 Report Abuse |
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CC is played by teams from every level. Its not really a top tier thing...?
Could be argued that CC is valuable because all of these teams (except for Elite) are now competing against the next level, and are probably weak teams in their league. Helping to bolster newer teams. Your league would just give extra cash to the teams that are already at the top of their leagues. Seems more like a rich get richer than a balancing function. Last edited on 2017-07-08 14:46:42 by Rock777 |
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janos
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posted: 2017-07-10 09:02:20 (ID: 100109499) Report Abuse |
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Yes, it is a second grade CoC.
The problem with CoC is that it opens the gap, while: - it is a 6 round cup only with 64 teams - there are 16-20 bots, that is useless, only 40 real teams get the chance to earn money and experience - only conference winners per each league qualify The new competition: - covers way more teams 128 or even 256 - no bots, so as of now lvl3 is not eligible - teams ranked 3rd to 7th or even 10/league is managable - could run for more weeks, eg. 10 Fridays - could be designed as a 3 round league, than cup playoff (256 teams), so the elimination is not so fast, most team have chance to earn money and experience and close the gap. |
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smokerteer
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posted: 2017-07-10 09:47:45 (ID: 100109501) Report Abuse |
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While I agree that the COC cup has it's problems, I see the solution being far more simple. Just get rid of the COC cup. It seems like a ridiculous competition, to me. It makes no sense since Elite league came into being, and the prize money is terribly ill-conceived. (Twice the supercup winners, five time the Elite Bowl winners (which is our Superbowl equivalent).
Just scrap the COC cup, don't increase the number of irrelevant cups.  |
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| posted: 2017-07-10 10:45:22 (ID: 100109507) Report Abuse | |
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As far as I know, it was exactly the intention to have the CoC the way it is right now, with the small adjustment it got when the Elite league was invented.
If Peter would have liked to have more teams getting extra exp and extra money, I think he would have done that. And again, my question is, why should this be introduced? Of cause it is nice to have more of more, but in a game like this you can't give so many teams more of more without thinking about the consequences. Right now it is quite hard to be in the CoC cup every season, so chances are very high that different teams get extra money and exp every season. With that extra league and PO-competion, it very likely that a high number of teams will get extra money and exp, every season. That doesn't make sense. |
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Meitheisman
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posted: 2017-07-10 11:07:13 (ID: 100109508) Report Abuse |
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jack6 wrote:
With that extra league and PO-competion, it very likely that a high number of teams will get extra money and exp, every season. That doesn't make sense. Isn't this exactly what happens with many current competitions? When's the last time Landru, Styrian Bears, Black Dragons or SD Blitz missed the SuperCup PO or the Elite PO? |
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| posted: 2017-07-10 11:18:56 (ID: 100109509) Report Abuse | |
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Meitheisman wrote:
jack6 wrote:
With that extra league and PO-competion, it very likely that a high number of teams will get extra money and exp, every season. That doesn't make sense. Isn't this exactly what happens with many current competitions? When's the last time Landru, Styrian Bears, Black Dragons or SD Blitz missed the SuperCup PO or the Elite PO? Well good management is good management. But it's one thing to live and work with the current status quo and another thing to add more fixed money income to more teams which leads to less chances for newer teams to survive and compete. Right now I think the competion and the chances for newer teams are already challanging, with that change it will become a test for patience, many will not stand or accept. My point of view. I'm all in for different kind of competions and to add meaningful games to have teams and managers having a better gaming experience, but that should not lead to a new kind of "Elite" vs "Rest" competition. We did suggests many different variations and none did convince Peter, so why should this one do, which is from my point of view not really interesting. |
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janos
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posted: 2017-07-10 13:39:04 (ID: 100109515) Report Abuse |
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jack6 wrote:
As far as I know, it was exactly the intention to have the CoC the way it is right now, with the small adjustment it got when the Elite league was invented. If Peter would have liked to have more teams getting extra exp and extra money, I think he would have done that. And again, my question is, why should this be introduced? Of cause it is nice to have more of more, but in a game like this you can't give so many teams more of more without thinking about the consequences. Right now it is quite hard to be in the CoC cup every season, so chances are very high that different teams get extra money and exp every season. With that extra league and PO-competion, it very likely that a high number of teams will get extra money and exp, every season. That doesn't make sense. Again, the purpose of the competition would be twofold: Earn experience at the later stage of player careers and earn money. The point would be to implement a competition, that gives more or less equal number of match opportunities for all. So a league, rather than a cup. In this case money and experience earning are even among all teams. If we give this opportunity to many teams, that would help closing the gap. I find a good idea to eliminate CoC completely as well. So it does not make the gap wider. |
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| posted: 2017-07-10 15:42:12 (ID: 100109521) Report Abuse | |
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janos wrote:
Again, the purpose of the competition would be twofold: Earn experience at the later stage of player careers and earn money. The point would be to implement a competition, that gives more or less equal number of match opportunities for all. So a league, rather than a cup. In this case money and experience earning are even among all teams. If we give this opportunity to many teams, that would help closing the gap. I find a good idea to eliminate CoC completely as well. So it does not make the gap wider. That only helps the team participating, which is eventually up to 1/2 of all teams, based on your suggestion even less. That helps then those lucky teams, but the others are damned, most of the time newer teams. |
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