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Rock777
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posted: 2017-08-16 00:49:59 (ID: 100111653) Report Abuse |
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I find a good Psycho is very effective at keeping my players in line.
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Solana_Steve wrote:
I think you want to refer to them as a Psychologist...Psycho has another meaning (please refer to Norman Bates). Steve SD Blitz I was under the assumption the doc has to care the same issues as his audience  |
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Fincyril
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posted: 2017-11-03 09:28:55 (ID: 100117571) Report Abuse |
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Meitheisman wrote:
Captain Jack wrote:
But in all seriousness this huge loss of morale (why?) could well impact negatively on our playoff game. Time once more to call for SC morale to be separated from League Morale - or if not then at least for the League and Playoff games to be played first in the week. So the morale impact is on the SC rather than the other way round. After losing to a very good team yesterday my players' morale was down to 64! I do have both Morale facilities activated and a level 20 psychologist. But I play Landru in the Elite PO tomorrow so I now basically stand no chance and this SC loss from yesterday completely ruins my chances to reach the Elite Championship game after a fantastic Elite season. And the theory saying that we can rest our starters in one competition to only try to play the other is utterly ridiculous, 55 players get affected by the morale loss so at best you can rest 15 players. If my 15 best players were at 100% morale but everyone else was ~80 there is still no way I would stand a chance against Landru so resting starters is not a valid solution to this problem. It's a bit annoying that one loss, to a very good team, basically ends my season in both competitions. I post here so I do not trash the SC topic. It is normal imo that the moral loss impacts all the competitions you play. A tough loss stays in your head even if your next game is on another event. What is not normal is that it is based on ELO which does not reflect the current strengh of the teams. I stand behind a proposition I made earlier this year in which the moral loss could be indexed on the best team rating of the last 15 or 20 games. The number of games considered could be challenged but the idea would be that a team must play its best players at some point during this period in order to win games. Even a tanking team tries to win games in the SC. I can see people saying that some good rated teams never won anything or have result way under what their rating would suggest. I would reply that if you can not play well when you have good players, that is quite normal the players feel depressed. |
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| posted: 2017-11-03 10:21:27 (ID: 100117579) Report Abuse | |
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Your period is too short. 10, 20, 30 games...you need at least a few seasons in such a rating to make it somehow comparable.
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Meitheisman
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posted: 2017-11-03 10:39:41 (ID: 100117580) Report Abuse |
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I think using team rating instead of ELO would be even worse than the current situation because team rating only measures the strength of the players and not the strength of the team as a whole, including coaches and of course the manager.
If the Styrian Bears and I had exactly the same team rating for example I would expect his team to win because he is a better manager than I am and is better at scouting and creating a smart playbook. ELO takes all of that into consideration and that's why the Bears are, rightfully, ranked ahead of me. The problem with ELO is that it moves way too slowly, jagreen's team is very good and I am absolutely not ashamed of losing to him so I don't understand why my players lost 36% of their morale. Had I lost to a really bad team I could understand but a loss on the road to a team that went 14-2 in maybe the toughest 1.1 division in all of RZA and 17-0 in the SC beating several current or recent Elite teams on the way should not result in a loss of 1/3 of my players' morale. |
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Fincyril
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posted: 2017-11-03 12:01:35 (ID: 100117583) Report Abuse |
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I disagree with both of you but that's Ok.
@Pete: I really do not see why we can not compare the maximum rating reached by two teams on the same period. To manipulate the rating, you need to play on purpose a weaker team every single week which make this team out of all the competition it plays. @Metheisman: I am totally Ok with the fact 2 managers would perform differently with the same team. It is up to the manager to make sure he is using the team the best way possible. If it results in a bigger moral hit because the manager is not as good, fair enough. That is the manager fault as he had all he needed (good players) to do better. My rating is 79ish. In my opinion I must be able to win any team weaker than that and when I have lost to MSS, I should have lost way much that 3 or 4%. I did play MOTY, but why I dream to get rid of MOTY is another story.  |
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Fincyril wrote:
@Pete: I really do not see why we can not compare the maximum rating reached by two teams on the same period. To manipulate the rating, you need to play on purpose a weaker team every single week which make this team out of all the competition it plays. I did not say it this way. Just your "during the actual season" was much too short for my taste 
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hollyhh2000
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posted: 2017-11-03 13:17:53 (ID: 100117586) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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Maybe it would be a good idea to put in a moral boost before playoff games. It should simulate that teams are pumped up for a playoff game.
That way, we would not need to change the current system, but the morale loss will not have that negative influence on the playoff game you played for all season to reach it. So good teams will have a tougher time to regroup after a loss (as it should be) but it will not ruin their season. Last edited on 2017-11-03 13:18:23 by hollyhh2000 |
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JonnyP
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posted: 2017-11-03 13:43:53 (ID: 100117589) Report Abuse |
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holly is right, but let's go one step further..
Why not just remove morale throughout the League/SC playoffs, and have it as a regular season 'thing'. Of course players are going to be pumped up before any playoff game - morale should be a complete 'non' issue for these. |
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| posted: 2017-11-03 13:50:31 (ID: 100117591) Report Abuse | |
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JonnyP wrote:
remove morale throughout the League/SC playoffs, and have it as a regular season 'thing'. This. Great plan! 
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