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Meitheisman
posted: 2017-07-27 11:11:14 (ID: 100110484) Report Abuse
Attendance is driven by fans and as we all know fans hate losing, especially when they've had a taste of winning so my suggestion is to link attendance to a team's best seasonal performances.

For example, a team like San Diego Blitzkrieg who has made the Elite PO for 13 consecutive seasons should have very high expectations and the fans should be disappointed if he finishes a season 8-8 and misses the Elite PO. This should lead to lower attendance as his fans would have the highest expectations.

On the other hand a team like Chichester Chimera playing its first ever season in Elite is "only" 5-8 right now but its fans would be thrilled to be playing in the top division and should fill the stadium every week because they don't know when they will play Elite football again.


To make a real life comparison it'd be like Real Madrid playing a Champions League group match, the fans might not get too excited about that as the expectation is to win the Champions League every single year. On the other hand fans of a team playing the Champions League for the very first time would fill the stadium for any group match as it'd be new and exciting.
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noodle
posted: 2017-07-27 11:14:03 (ID: 100110485) Report Abuse
good idea i think, it would also assist in decreasing tanking (if i understand correctly what tanking is lol)
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Captain Jack
posted: 2017-07-27 11:21:19 (ID: 100110486) Report Abuse
noodle wrote:
good idea i think, it would also assist in decreasing tanking (if i understand correctly what tanking is lol)


+1
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Meitheisman
posted: 2017-07-31 10:23:04 (ID: 100110630) Report Abuse
Only 2 responses and both of them are positive, is there anything someone doesn't like about this idea?


I was thinking about the math and a way to implement something like this and here is my first idea (I'm sure I've missed a few things so please help me improve it)

Fan expectations could be based on the team's previous season final result, on a scale of 1 to 10 it could look like this.

Fan expectations:
10 - Treble (win SC, CoC and Elite League)
9.5 - Win 2 major trophies
9.0 - Win 1 major trophy
8.5 - Reach a major trophy's final
8.0 - Reach the Semi-Final of SC or CoC or the Elite Championship Game
7.5 - Reach the Elite Divisional Round
7.0 - Reach the Quarter-Final of SC or CoC or the Elite Playoffs
6.5 - Reach the last 16 of SC or CoC or Stay in Elite League
6.0 - Become an Elite League member or reach the last 32 of SC
5.5 - Reach a 1.1 Championship Game or reach the last 64 of SC
5.0 - Reach a 1.1 Divisional Game or SC Playoffs
4.5 - Reach the 1.1 Playoffs
4.0 - Stay in 1.1
3.5 - Reach the 2.x Conference Championship
3.0 - Reach the 2.x Divisional Round
2.5 - Reach the 2.x Playoffs
2.0 - Win at least 8 games in 2.x
1.5 - Play a full season in 2.x
1.0 - Real Noob's minimum fan expectations.


Obviously the higher result you achieved the previous season the higher fans expectations will be and the more disappointed fans would be by a loss.

Currently, all teams lose about 3% attendance for league games and the idea is to make this number smaller for weaker teams and higher for top teams, because of fans expectations. My idea is to make this number 6% for a team winning SuperCup, Champ of Champ and Elite League the same season and only 1.5% for a noob instead of the currently 3% for everyone.

Here's an idea of what the impact on attendance could be:
Fans Expectations - Additional Impact of a loss in the last 10 games
10 - minus 3%
9.5 - minus 2.75%
9.0 - minus 2.5%
8.5 - minus 2.25%
8.0 - minus 2%
7.5 - minus 1.75%
7.0 - minus 1.5%
6.5 - minus 1.25%
6.0 - minus 1%
5.5 - minus 0.75%
5.0 - minus 0.5%
4.5 - minus 0.25%
4.0 - no change 0%
3.5 - plus 0.25%
3.0 - plus 0.5%
2.5 - plus 0.75%
2.0 - plus 1%
1.5 - plus 1.25%
1.0 - plus 1.5%


PS: Based on the above suggestion my team would lose between 1% and 1.5% attendance while teams I am competing against would lose less so this is clearly not something that would help my team but I think it would make the game more realistic and better.
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Captain Jack
posted: 2017-07-31 11:21:12 (ID: 100110633) Report Abuse
I think this is excellent. It starts to make a separation between the fans expectations and team morale (covered elsewhere). Also as Noodle says it could help to offset some tanking. If a team has had a good season then decides to tank then fans loyalty will decrease - as it would in real life.

However, I think that the calculations should run for longer than a season because fans will remember the glory days of a few years ago. (This will also have the benefit of hitting tankers for longer). Maybe calculations should be based over the past 5 seasons but reducing in value per season.

So, for example, all of your calculations are operable for last season; then in addition at 80% for 2 seasons ago, 60% for 3, 40 % for 4 and finally 20% for the 5th season ago.
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Meitheisman
posted: 2017-07-31 12:00:12 (ID: 100110636) Report Abuse
I like that, very good point Jack
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Bloodbeak
posted: 2017-07-31 15:20:24 (ID: 100110645) Report Abuse
I like this idea
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posted: 2017-07-31 19:13:51 (ID: 100110658) Report Abuse
What is wrong with the currently active system?
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posted: 2017-07-31 19:22:19 (ID: 100110659) Report Abuse
I don't know.
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Meitheisman
posted: 2017-07-31 22:14:00 (ID: 100110667) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
What is wrong with the currently active system?


It doesn't take fan expectations into consideration.

Not all 5-5 teams are equal in terms of fans. Pats fans would be upset at starting a season 5-5 while Browns fans would be happy at 5-5. I think this should be reflected in terms of attendance.
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