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| posted: 2017-08-12 17:22:52 (ID: 100111349) Report Abuse | |
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Hi Pete and everyone,
We have had lots of discussions about our league system. In our league forum we have discussed about it. And we had the idea to reduce RZA to 4 regions instead of 8. Reasons : 1. The possibility to reorganise the Elite league promotion system so that demotion is not automatic when being in one of the two last spots of your elite division 2. Have a more equal competition in the first and second leagues I believe this kind of reorganising would help to increase loyalty of our our managers and hence effectively increase the number of active players. Is there a possibility to discuss this, Pete ? I would see it as a long term plan with a possible integration not before season 30. |
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| posted: 2017-08-12 19:35:35 (ID: 100111364) Report Abuse | |
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From ToDo
Declined, because not matching with the game idea behind the scenes - Any change of the league structures for Supercup, CoC and League I am sorry, but I stick with this. For reasons |
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| posted: 2017-08-12 20:14:03 (ID: 100111368) Report Abuse | |
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We had similar discussions many times before. We are coming back to them because we see that we are not growing. It is nice of you to increase the credits for our rating of the game. But truth is, we are losing too many players because they are frustrated.
In our league each season we have the same situation. Promoting to the Elite League is seen as a penalty. It will be a losing season and financially it will not come to the income of a season in the First league where we will make the playoffs and have full stadiums. I will not tank my match against Cool and I hope he won't either. But none of us wants to be in the Elite League at the current structure. I cite one of our colleagues who is part of the Elite league : JonnyP wrote: The problem is not so much the Elite league, but that the game does not have the player base to support 8 regions. The gulf between top 1.1 teams and bottom 1.1 teams is too great, and we are not retaining new teams in 2.1 and 2.2 because playing bots is boring. A manager just needs to be alive in order to promote from 2 to 1, they get thrashed by the 'nearly Elites' in 1.1 and give up. This in turn means that good 1.1 teams are able to coast a little, hardly the best preparation for the bear pit that is the league above where in order to be consistent successful you need to be planning 5-6 seasons ahead at all times.... The game needs a tighter tier structure to ensure closer competition throughout, but unfortunately Pete will not consider it. |
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posted: 2017-08-12 20:20:12 (ID: 100111371) Report Abuse |
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Dragons 2.2 is very competitive, has many human teams and is not easy. I understand that other 2.2 leagues do not have as many human players but for me, it is ok as it is. no need to consider this from my point of view.
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posted: 2017-08-12 21:27:05 (ID: 100111375) Report Abuse |
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I think that this would make for a much stronger and better game for all or for the majority anyway, and have said so and supported this argument before. I also know that Pete has said no to this previously and has heard all the arguments so far and has clearly stated his intention.
If I could move league to a more full region then I would love to but hey ho!! |
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| posted: 2017-08-12 21:56:42 (ID: 100111378) Report Abuse | |
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oakbark wrote:
If I could move league to a more full region then I would love to but hey ho!! See, a function to move to another region is possible. We have this since a few seasons in RZC, and so far it works as expected. However, moving between regions might kill rivalries, might harm the balance between regions. However, I am ready to implement a function to move to another regions 2.x league during his single offseason week. But, I can clearly see there are managers who would not be happy if a strong 1.1 team moves to a 2.x league because of more or less selfish reasons, and therefore delay the career of these 2.x teams... |
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posted: 2017-08-12 22:29:17 (ID: 100111382) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
oakbark wrote:
If I could move league to a more full region then I would love to but hey ho!! See, a function to move to another region is possible. We have this since a few seasons in RZC, and so far it works as expected. However, moving between regions might kill rivalries, might harm the balance between regions. However, I am ready to implement a function to move to another regions 2.x league during his single offseason week. But, I can clearly see there are managers who would not be happy if a strong 1.1 team moves to a 2.x league because of more or less selfish reasons, and therefore delay the career of these 2.x teams... Here is part of the reason I wouldn't suggest it, because if you could move regions then I know there would be teams who when tanking would then move to a quiet region. Let's say move to Thunder 2.2 get max media centre could then tank get fantastic drafts and do this a few seasons and end up with a fantastic team but not done in an ethically moral way. |
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posted: 2017-08-13 09:30:30 (ID: 100111406) Report Abuse |
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Even if we had only on second division per regions instead of two it will be better for news team because competition will be harder but not to much. The learning curve will be softened and the teams who won their tickets for first division will be well prepared.
And it will be very less interesting to tank as second division teams will be stronger. And if the number of accounts on the game rise up then open a third division instead of a second second division. I feel like it make more sense as it will absord in a better way the account fluctuation. But Pete is our master and when I see the game today I trust his vision (and we all know he listen to the community even when he say no  ). |
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| posted: 2017-08-13 10:45:44 (ID: 100111407) Report Abuse | |
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I have played this kind of games since ten years ago. I never do more than 3. RZA has become my favorite in many aspects. The only detail disturbing me is really the league organisation. It does not seem natural to me to have to hope for a loss on Tuesday. I will not do anything to provoke a loss. Best team, best PB. But I will be happier if Cool wins, even if it was in overtime due to an interception.
Of course the dream would be to install myself in the Elite League. But with half the teams always dropping out the bar is too high. And this is frustrating. In all other games I played the ratio of demoting teams is inferior. The one where it goes best seems to be Trophy Manager where we have a factor of 1:4. One first league, 4 second leagues, 16 third leagues etc etc. In the format the leagues have 18 teams. 4 are demoted, 4 go into relegation matches with teams coming up from the leagues under. The ratio is much more natural and there are much less dropouts and no tanking. |
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| posted: 2017-08-13 10:50:56 (ID: 100111408) Report Abuse | |
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You are doing a mistake from my point of view. Elite is not part of the natural league structure. Elite is a bonus, and it is kind of a "wastebin" at the same time. It is a bonus for managers reaching a 1.1 bowl. And it is a "wastebin" for teams that are to strong for their natural 1.1 leeagues. Therefore, this fast go up/down is wanted. Sorry for the word "wastebin", I found no better one for explaining it.
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