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posted: 2017-10-06 11:18:27 (ID: 100115665) Report Abuse

Source: https://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/425849RZAQBStatsS22.png
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Cheesehead
posted: 2017-10-06 11:27:11 (ID: 100115666) Report Abuse
Thanks Drogon! I rest my case your honor...
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Superpippo
posted: 2017-10-06 11:33:09 (ID: 100115667) Report Abuse
Cheesehead wrote:
Thanks Drogon! I rest my case your honor...


Isn't this just two very comparable players showing very comparable results?
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Drogon
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posted: 2017-10-06 12:09:37 (ID: 100115670) Report Abuse
Superpippo wrote:
Cheesehead wrote:
Thanks Drogon! I rest my case your honor...

Isn't this just two very comparable players showing very comparable results?


Both QBs = 30 TDs

B.Faivre = 66,7% (% total TDs)
A.Ragot = 33,3% (% total TDs)

A.Ragot TDs (10) = 50% B.Faivre TDs (20)
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Superpippo
posted: 2017-10-06 12:31:10 (ID: 100115673)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
Drogon wrote:
Superpippo wrote:
Cheesehead wrote:
Thanks Drogon! I rest my case your honor...

Isn't this just two very comparable players showing very comparable results?


Both QBs = 30 TDs

B.Faivre = 66,7% (% total TDs)
A.Ragot = 33,3% (% total TDs)

A.Ragot TDs (10) = 50% B.Faivre TDs (20)


I don't wanna put anyone down here, but all these comparisons are very irrelevant statistically.

If there is anything to say about this small bit of data is that this particular agile genius QB that works hard for the team was better at completing TD passes than the averagely smart, less agile slightly faster and stronger QB with less work rate during the course of 1 season... so what does that tell us?

You honestly can't assess the exact weight of a skill without having two identical QB's with 1 stat slight lower/higher, having them play a couple of hundred games with exactly the same amount and type of offensive plays against exactly the same defenses, with exactly the same offensive players and defensive players. Same morale, same physical condition...

So anyone up to collecting this data for us?








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posted: 2017-10-06 13:06:24 (ID: 100115676) Report Abuse
Stats are made to show what one wants to point out, and hide everything else.
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Rock777
posted: 2017-10-07 01:25:48 (ID: 100115693)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
You can't have two guys play first string at the same time. The guy on top plays until his stamina reaches whatever your limit is, and then the other second guys comes in. On average, the guy on top faces better talent, while the second player faces more second stringers.

And as Superpippo points out, one guys is strong and one guys is smart. Each have their own strengths. The way pressure works in this game, speed is a huge advantage as well.

Drogon wrote:
Stats are made to show what one wants to point out, and hide everything else.

, this is very true

Last edited on 2017-10-07 01:37:04 by Rock777

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posted: 2017-10-07 10:08:35 (ID: 100115701) Report Abuse
Rock777 wrote:
You can't have two guys play first string at the same time.

That is wrong.

Rock777 wrote:
The guy on top plays until his stamina reaches whatever your limit is, and then the other second guys comes in.

That is not correct.

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prchaser
posted: 2017-10-08 21:31:19 (ID: 100115769) Report Abuse
Drogon wrote:
Superpippo wrote:
Cheesehead wrote:
Thanks Drogon! I rest my case your honor...

Isn't this just two very comparable players showing very comparable results?


Both QBs = 30 TDs

B.Faivre = 66,7% (% total TDs)
A.Ragot = 33,3% (% total TDs)

A.Ragot TDs (10) = 50% B.Faivre TDs (20)


Couldn't the TD difference have more to do with WR breaking a long play or playing more snaps in the red zone? Other than the TD differential, the stats look practically identical
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posted: 2017-10-10 13:26:51 (ID: 100115817) Report Abuse
prchaser wrote:
Drogon wrote:
Superpippo wrote:
Cheesehead wrote:
Thanks Drogon! I rest my case your honor...

Isn't this just two very comparable players showing very comparable results?


Both QBs = 30 TDs

B.Faivre = 66,7% (% total TDs)
A.Ragot = 33,3% (% total TDs)

A.Ragot TDs (10) = 50% B.Faivre TDs (20)


Couldn't the TD difference have more to do with WR breaking a long play or playing more snaps in the red zone? Other than the TD differential, the stats look practically identical


Anyone can dig into season S22 and make conclusions.
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