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Captain Jack
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posted: 2017-11-03 16:18:18 (ID: 100117606) Report Abuse |
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Based upon discussions and suggestions elsewhere I want to make a formal proposition to remove morale throughout the League/SC playoffs, and have it as a regular season 'thing'.
As has been stated players are going to be pumped up before any playoff game - morale should be a complete 'non' issue for these. As one team found in the past losing to a very good team their morale was down to 64 with both Morale facilities activated and a level 20 psychologist. They had an Elite PO following this game in which they stood no chance and this SC loss completely ruined their chances to reach the Elite Championship game after a fantastic Elite season. In my own case having gone 16-0 in the regular season I have just lost a SC game to a team of the same calibre as my own but now am facing a potential PO loss to a team who are on paper weaker but do not have the huge morale loss that my team do. Again this one SC loss could ruin my opportunity to return to the Elite league. There have been many arguments to reduce the morale loss or to have it calculated differently but this suggestion of removing during PO games seems reasonable and hopefully would be quite easy to implement. |
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| posted: 2017-11-03 16:32:51 (ID: 100117610) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |
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I guess there is a better way to come around this.
The display of Morale is just flawed. There should be a scale from 0 to...120. Standard Morale is about 100, and gets deducted by X (as it is today) if you lose against opps you should have won. There could be a morale boost based on reaching the next round of POs, but based on the fact the standard Morale is not "full morale" of such a scale. And, you can never ever hit the end of the scale, no matter what happens. I hope I found the right explanation, if not, the Grammar Police could correct me, please. Last edited on 2017-11-03 16:44:39 by pete |
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JonnyP
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posted: 2017-11-03 16:43:58 (ID: 100117612) Report Abuse |
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Often the simplest answer is the best one. Over complicating this really is not necessary.
If morale is not affected by playoff games in either the league or the supercup then that removes the issue of one loss against a very strong opponent ruining the post season in 2 competitions at once. No need for extra morale boosts for making the playoffs, or anything like that. They've made the playoffs, therefore they are happy, set to 100, leave at 100. |
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| posted: 2017-11-03 16:45:51 (ID: 100117613) Report Abuse | |
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I dislike your proposal, Jonny, even it would be the easiest solution. It takes away the need of managing your roster if you plan to be successful in more than one competition.
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JonnyP
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posted: 2017-11-03 16:49:50 (ID: 100117614) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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Sometimes I despair Pete, I really do.
The playoffs are not about 'managing a roster' - apart from with reference to injuries and fitness, they are about playing your best guys, who are pumped up to play their best possible game. Last edited on 2017-11-03 16:51:07 by JonnyP |
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| posted: 2017-11-03 17:03:59 (ID: 100117621) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |
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I knew we would disagree
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Fincyril
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posted: 2017-11-03 17:35:40 (ID: 100117634) Report Abuse |
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I prefered holly’s Idea which gives a small moral boost before play-off games.
@pete: I tend to agree with JonnyP and Meitheisman on the impossibility to manage the roster in order to do not impact the starters by the moral loss. A full depth chart is 55 players and we can have only 70 players in a team. So sure you can prepare 2 35 players depth chart, but that would be impossible to win as all the starters would be exhausted at the end of the games. I will propose another suggestion that maybe a little bit complicated to quote but that could be really interesting in this managing game. PS: Pete I do not see the add of the Guinness emoji in the change log. It seems your are getting a bit messy.  |
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| posted: 2017-11-03 18:04:44 (ID: 100117640) Report Abuse | |
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Fincyril wrote:
PS: Pete I do not see the add of the Guinness emoji in the change log. It seems your are getting a bit messy. Fixed in a moment |
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-11-03 21:54:48 (ID: 100117653) Edits found: 2 Report Abuse |
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In my experience you lose about 20 moral if you lose to a team that ELO thinks you should have beaten. It takes 2 days to build up ~20 moral. Since Super Cup games never happen the day after a playoff game, you should generally be back to 100% for any Super Cup game. For Saturday playoff games, it should generally be possible to recoup any moral before a playoff game. For Tuesday games you might be down 10 moral. How many points does 10 moral really equate to?
If the ELO predicted a very easy win, then you can lose even more point. But then maybe you should be punished for losing to a 40 rated team. Last edited on 2017-11-03 21:59:40 by Rock777 |
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OrangeCrush
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posted: 2017-11-03 22:22:59 (ID: 100117657) Report Abuse |
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Rock777 wrote:
In my experience you lose about 20 moral if you lose to a team that ELO thinks you should have beaten. It takes 2 days to build up ~20 moral. Since Super Cup games never happen the day after a playoff game, you should generally be back to 100% for any Super Cup game. For Saturday playoff games, it should generally be possible to recoup any moral before a playoff game. For Tuesday games you might be down 10 moral. How many points does 10 moral really equate to? If the ELO predicted a very easy win, then you can lose even more point. But then maybe you should be punished for losing to a 40 rated team. So validate your numbers: I am down to 64% morale for loosing to a 69 rated team. Yes I should have won and made a mistake but I can maybe get back to 75% morale before tomorrows game @ Pete what you call roster management, most other would call tanking in one tournament. You even implemented a rule against tanking. understand you, I cannot sometimes |
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