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joi.pranzl
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posted: 2017-12-22 16:57:21 (ID: 100121028) Report Abuse |
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RZA World Cup
> adapted from Tennis Davis Cup > goal 1: more managers getting involved > goal 2: money distributed more evenly Tournament instead of Friday’s CoC Cup. Every Friday, 5 teams from one nation/region (N/R) play those of another – the N/R with a positive score (3:2, 4:1, 5:0) gets the win. First, I thought about instant knockout rounds, but I think groups would give smaller N/R much more participation and chances. Thus, I propose a group stage (e.g. 32 teams altogether): 4 groups a 8 teams (7 game days), 4 best teams from each group proceed to playoffs. 16 teams playoffs (3 game days). [in addition, each of the 32 positions can be played for (thinking about money here)]. …. Lots of discussion on details here, I guess. One N/R can consist of either 5 teams from one country (e.g. Austria, US1, US2 etc. etc.). In addition to that, a N/R can also be transnational, for those, which do not have 5 teams. e.g. Finland & Sweden make a team Scandinavia, Croatia & Serbia a team Balkan  …. You get the idea… This will be a matter of team managers getting together by themselves in time to form a N/R. Also Team Europe, Team Asia, Team Latin America or Team World could be an option, particularly for those countries/regions with only a few managers.
Community participation: Participation is voluntarily. At the beginning of every season, it is upon managers to form their nation’s/region’s team. > Forum will be active. For instance, in the US, 150 active managers, but only 10 are needed for two teams. It would be upon them to discuss two issues: 1) Who actually wants to be part of it (time, etc.). 2) if there are more than 5 managers available, there could be a simple poll, where all managers from this N/R can decide, which teams should represent them. Those 5 with the most votes will become Team US 1, the others US 2. (I guess we would need to discuss how many teams from the US would be allowed to participate, how to determine those > maybe also community voting?; alternatively, US managers could form Teams and then all managers from the US vote for the those to represent the US…) For instance, Spain has 12 managers, depending on how many want to take part, there could be either one or two teams. For instance, UK decides to make 2 teams, Scotland 1, Wales 1 and England 1. For instance, one manager from Greece, one from Ireland, one from Slovakia, one from Romania and one from Belgium decide to form a Team Europe. And there could be a Team World (etc.) for those countries having only 1 or 2 managers. > Gives honor to the managers (maybe even a small trophy for participating?) and motivation for those not being part of it. Money distribution: Games would be played like current CoC games, but money could be distributed evenly across all managers from that N/R (if that is possible?). For instance, Austria (10 players) decides to make one team with 5 active managers participating, all ten would get money from each game day). Therefore, this tournament could be much less about money as the CoC. In addition, it could get managers to follow their N/R teams, forum activity, rivalries, etc. I would say there is plenty of room for discussions and details here, but I would certainly like something like this happening rather than the CoC Cup, where only a handful participates every season…. Maybe also Pete can chip in on what might be doable and what not from a technical point of view |
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joi.pranzl wrote:
Maybe also Pete can chip in on what might be doable and what not from a technical point of view not for the moment, would like to hear more opinions first. |
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noodle
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posted: 2017-12-23 18:47:27 (ID: 100121057) Report Abuse |
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will managers be allowed to ban their players from taking part?
personally i think there are enough ways of playing games on here without a world cup, its too association football like for me which i like but i joined this game to play NFL. i am not interested and don't want my players involved, tired and possibly injured. |
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| posted: 2017-12-23 19:00:11 (ID: 100121059) Report Abuse | |
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If they cannot get tired or injured, would you still ban them from playing games?
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marinarul10
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posted: 2017-12-23 19:16:06 (ID: 100121060) Report Abuse |
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joi.pranzl wrote:
Tournament instead of Friday’s CoC Cup. Every Friday, 5 teams from one nation/region (N/R) play those of another – the N/R with a positive score (3:2, 4:1, 5:0) gets the win. First, I thought about instant knockout rounds, but I think groups would give smaller N/R much more participation and chances. Thus, I propose a group stage (e.g. 32 teams altogether): 4 groups a 8 teams (7 game days), 4 best teams from each group proceed to playoffs. 16 teams playoffs (3 game days). [in addition, each of the 32 positions can be played for (thinking about money here)]. …. Lots of discussion on details here, I guess. One N/R can consist of either 5 teams from one country (e.g. Austria, US1, US2 etc. etc.). In addition to that, a N/R can also be transnational, for those, which do not have 5 teams. e.g. Finland & Sweden make a team Scandinavia, Croatia & Serbia a team Balkan …. You get the idea… This will be a matter of team managers getting together by themselves in time to form a N/R. Also Team Europe, Team Asia, Team Latin America or Team World could be an option, particularly for those countries/regions with only a few managers.
I would say there is plenty of room for discussions and details here, but I would certainly like something like this happening rather than the CoC Cup, where only a handful participates every season…. Maybe also Pete can chip in on what might be doable and what not from a technical point of view I love this idea. Only one thing, participation of teams should be mandatory, based previous season league position or ranking or anything else, like in actual CoC Cup where if you're champ you're in. |
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Bovakian
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posted: 2017-12-23 23:09:09 (ID: 100121071) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
If they cannot get tired or injured, would you still ban them from playing games? Personally I don't think it makes a difference whether they don't get tired or injured, if a manager is not interested in this then he should be able to have his players discounted from selection. I am not interested in this idea. |
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oakbark
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posted: 2017-12-24 00:05:57 (ID: 100121073) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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Bovakian wrote:
pete wrote:
If they cannot get tired or injured, would you still ban them from playing games? Personally I don't think it makes a difference whether they don't get tired or injured, if a manager is not interested in this then he should be able to have his players discounted from selection. I am not interested in this idea. Nor am i, I think it is little to do with any interest i have in the game. i think that the vast majority of the community wont be involved or benefit from this so what is the benefit except for the few involved. If people really want a world cup produce a bunch of friendly cups per region and then playoff in a friendly cup for the title. There are many things i would prefer to see Pete implement before coding this. As.for money distribution from this. Quite simply no one should get anything or XP. You cannot give a reward for a tournament that excludes most players without a valid reason and where participants are chosen on what grounds? A.popularity vote? Last edited on 2017-12-24 00:12:13 by oakbark |
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joi.pranzl
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posted: 2017-12-24 00:54:28 (ID: 100121075) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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mabye something got a bit confused...
first of all, I totally get that some (or maybe even many) simply don't want something like a world cup! But, the idea is to replace CoC with something which does precisely that, spreading money more evenly and getting more managers involved (both quite tricky). Of course it can be done with friendly cups, but that means quite some work. Regarding players... its not about individual players... it is about managers and their teams. The way I proposed it, if you don't want to participate as a team, then you simple don't. end of the story. But if you want, and if more managers (than 5 or 10) from one country/region want to participate, then I would do a vote from all managers (voluntarily of course) to vote for the managers, which should represent them in the tournament.... edit: I wouldn't want it to be mandatory.... if managers are not interested or don't have enough time, then they can simply ignore it.... as the CoC is ignored by almost all, who do not take part Last edited on 2017-12-24 00:56:34 by joi.pranzl |
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Schwabe
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posted: 2017-12-24 14:32:03 (ID: 100121096) Report Abuse |
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I like the idea. But I would say 4 Managers per Team.
Each Manager plays in one group 4 matches against random group opponent. After the group phase there will be PO for the best teams from these for groups. If there are more than 4 managers from one region, the best from the previos season will get the spot. For the US I would suggest that they will be distributed into 4 regions (East coast, West coast, northern and southern). For the small nations there should be the regions (Asia, Pacifica, Indian Ocean, south atlantic, north atlantic and mediterran),and they should be able to choose from this regions where thea want to play for. |
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oakbark
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posted: 2017-12-24 17:38:36 (ID: 100121101) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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If this replaces the CoC and rewards XP and gate receipts, these are the problems i have with it.
The preposal involves a number of group games the knockouts that a lot of benefit to the participants. Which draws into the discussion of participant selection. If we assume that because of the rewards that the vast majority of the active players would want to take part then how are they chosen. A system based on previous seasons record would be unfair. The chances of teams from different regions being able to participate will vary. Any voting system for participation within a region could be unfair to the less active or less popular players. A selection system that allows certain teams to participate every year would confer said teams long term benefits. Personally I feel that to be fair then everybody who wants to enter from a region has to have an equal chance of being selected to participate. I would prefer that the games didnt offer financial reward or experience reward but if they do selection has to be fair and a system put in place to ensure that the same teams are not allowed to participate each year. The CoC at least rewards teams from all leagues (albeit a season later) and it's very rare that teams participate in more than one in a row. I would hate to see anything introduced to game that conferred an advantage to certain teams. if the final proposal avoids that and people want it then I would happily support the idea. Last edited on 2017-12-24 17:41:14 by oakbark |
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