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JhinWSmite
posted: 2018-01-05 17:24:03 (ID: 100121582) Report Abuse
Specify which part is wrong
Or be quiet til u find something
Serious stream I wont let go personal

There's an answer
After u guys realize the problem
I don't tear things up til I'm SURe
I can fix them

Just look
And ADD
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JhinWSmite
posted: 2018-01-05 17:37:44 (ID: 100121583) Report Abuse

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JhinWSmite
posted: 2018-01-05 17:41:48 (ID: 100121584) Report Abuse
every time this cycle repeats it WIDENS the gap between me and the top

Question, is the goal for a new team to EVER be able to plaly a top elo team?
I will never catch you unless you literally quit,


what id like to see is teams that drop in elo
there should be a list if im crazy

but if im right peopel stay up or quit
only the bottom changes when people
leave after realizing they will never catch up

in the nfl if a team started tomorrow
they can be in the playoffs in 2-3 yrs and
then on even footing

actually expansion franchises do better historically
because they get the best new coach and a TAILORED roster to START WITH
no half the guys left over from teh old regime that the
new coach either cant use or doesnt want

see Car Panthers, and Jaguars history
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Meitheisman
posted: 2018-01-05 17:57:14 (ID: 100121586) Report Abuse
Calm down if you want people to respond and help you.

If you don't want people to respond and help you, please go write a blog.
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posted: 2018-01-05 17:57:45 (ID: 100121587) Report Abuse
Do not put too much weight on mathematical calculations.

RZA isn't all math. RL football isn't either.
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JonnyP
posted: 2018-01-05 17:59:19 (ID: 100121588)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
I think you're misunderstanding the use of ELO here.

It's purely an indication of the success of a team over a period of time. It has no bearing to a team's actual current ability whatsoever.

You gain ELO by winning games, you lose ELO by losing games. ELO ratings have no impact on your team's performance. There is no in-game mechanic that takes into account ELO.

The rate of ELO change depends on the standard of the opposition. If a 400 ELO team beat mine (1200), then my team would lose a lot, the other team would gain a lot. But it still really would not matter in the grand scheme of things as it would not make my team any worse or his any better.

Last edited on 2018-01-05 18:07:30 by JonnyP

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prchaser
posted: 2018-01-05 18:06:15 (ID: 100121590) Report Abuse
First, I apologize as I'm not sure I could accurately read everything on the board. That said, these numbers seemed to be arbitrary at best.

Looking at the Draft column, not sure why both sides get a +1. This game is like the NFL in that the worst teams get the best draft picks, and it is three rounds. The worst team is likely to get two or three decent players whereas the best team will get only one or maybe two good players.

The stadium column also is wrong. Stadiums cap at 144,300, so once you've built your stadium to capacity, that is a wash.

The two middle bid list columns I assume refers to the transfer market. I am willing to grant you that more senior teams have an advantage here, but it is not as drastic as this math problem makes it seem. For example, each roster has a cap, so at some point, the senior teams won't be adding any more players. You'll get some free agent players at this point just by default.

One final point is that ELO is not really important at all. It is more of a historic measure of a team's past success but has no bearing on future results. If NFL had ELO, the 49ers would have one of the highest ratings whereas Seattle would have one of the worst. So in the first column, your assumption that the better ELO score always beats the worse ELO score is far from accurate.
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Rock777
posted: 2018-01-05 21:07:37 (ID: 100121603) Report Abuse
Firstly, ELO is not a thing you want high. The more ELO you have the more moral you lose after a game. That is the ONLY function that ELO plays in the game. So gaining ELO should not be a goal.

The main flaw in your logic is that you assume things like Stadium size and Quality of personnel is something that can improve infinitely. That is not the case. Everything has caps. Everyone is limited to a stadium size of 144300. Once you have built a stadium of size 144300, you have closed the gap to 0.

Same with players. There is a maximum to player quality, and unknowns mean that you can sometimes find future star players on the transfer market for as little as $5000. Once you have a max stadium, you will earn more money than you veteran opponents (who are spending more on staff, players, and facilities). Thus you will have MORE buying power, and you will have reversed the gap.
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posted: 2018-01-06 04:41:28 (ID: 100121634)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
JhinWSmite wrote:
Specify which part is wrong


The COluMnS with w+1 or L-1* (heADers lASt GaMe to StAd) are wrONg.
Yet, the cOLumn scORe is cORrect.
(did you fill in the 80 first and later spred the figures across the lines ?)

ThAt MEans, based on soMEthing totALLy wrong you can be RIGHT.

JhinWSmite wrote:Just look

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Last edited on 2018-01-06 05:06:26 by Drogon

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posted: 2018-01-07 20:33:33 (ID: 100121749) Report Abuse
Drogon wrote:
JhinWSmite wrote:
Specify which part is wrong


The COluMnS with w+1 or L-1* (heADers lASt GaMe to StAd) are wrONg.
Yet, the cOLumn scORe is cORrect.
(did you fill in the 80 first and later spred the figures across the lines ?)

ThAt MEans, based on soMEthing totALLy wrong you can be RIGHT.

JhinWSmite wrote:Just look

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Joined the game: 2015-08-08 / S18, League Thunder Division 2.2
Won 16, Lost 0000000000000

1st season, S18
League Champion
Conference Champion
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Season 22 Member RZA Elite League

You ?


I'm flattered you'd use me as an example
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