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oakbark
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posted: 2018-03-10 09:56:32 (ID: 100125504) Report Abuse |
A lot of interesting moves going down and some still to be made.
Richard Sherman being cut. Coming off an Injury I know. Maybe lost the edge of his speed too, admittedly he was never the fastest. He is still an extremely talented, intrlligent , physical CB. If he returns close to his physical best and seeing how his peak were years where whilst playing with a chip on his shoulder I am interested to see how a jilted Sherman comes back. I think that there could be two more very good years in him. Tyrann Mathieu, a lot of talk the honey badger is gone from Arizona if he won't take a pay cut. Despite the injuries he's just 25 years old. He is making good money but doesn't fit the new scheme. He is the player who if he does get cut I can see the Browns Niners Jets and other salary cap laden teams going out and starting a bidding war. Sammy Watkins and Allen Robinson. Injury hit yes but both 2425 and potential WR1's. Teams are going to roll out the cash for these IMO. Robinson is the guy for me, he was the real deal until injury struck. Watkins is a risk, his body doesn't seem to have held up well and he's always flattered to deceive never fulfilling his undoubted potential |
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MonsterT95
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posted: 2018-03-10 11:25:47 (ID: 100125506) Report Abuse |
oakbark wrote:
Tyrod Taylor is not the answer at all. He will never lead a team to a Superbow. He is a stopgap, if the Browns do t take a QB in the first still, they will be in the same boat. He also doesn't fit Jacksons scheme. As for Landry this I like he gives the Browns a reliable productive chain mover in the slot. He's as least as talented as Kapaernick (oooh a SB QB !) or Foles (oh another one) and I'd say Flacco too. He never played for "QB whisperer" HC (Hue Jackson), nor an OC (Todd Haley) and when it comes to offensive scheme, you mean it's worse than having RGIII, McCown, Kessler, Kizer or Hogan ? Come.On. |
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oakbark
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posted: 2018-03-11 00:52:29 (ID: 100125544) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
MonsterT95 wrote:
oakbark wrote:
Tyrod Taylor is not the answer at all. He will never lead a team to a Superbow. He is a stopgap, if the Browns do t take a QB in the first still, they will be in the same boat. He also doesn't fit Jacksons scheme. As for Landry this I like he gives the Browns a reliable productive chain mover in the slot. He's as least as talented as Kapaernick (oooh a SB QB !) or Foles (oh another one) and I'd say Flacco too. He never played for "QB whisperer" HC (Hue Jackson), nor an OC (Todd Haley) and when it comes to offensive scheme, you mean it's worse than having RGIII, McCown, Kessler, Kizer or Hogan ? Come.On. This made me laugh, first off please explain where you see Hue Jackson being a QB whisperer? He has never coached an elite QB in his career. Secondly Tyrod backed up Flacco for four years, in seven z seasons he's the definition of a journyman. Its not me that needs to come on it is you who needs to take off the zbrown colored specs and see the truth. Finally if they draft Barclay at number one they will regret it. Modern day RB take to much punishment and decline to soon. Barclay will be elite but only for a few seasons because that's the nature of the position.. He doesn't offer value at pick 1. There is so much talent at college RB that you can pick up guys lower down..300 carries into his first year and the associated punishment from NFL defenses change a guy fast. Faster than any other position. Last edited on 2018-03-11 20:34:31 by oakbark |
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MonsterT95
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posted: 2018-03-11 09:23:06 (ID: 100125559) Report Abuse |
Dude made Andy Dalton look like an above average QB and sent him (twice) to the pro bowl
Andy Dalton !! He also coached the Raiders to an 8-8 record with Carson Palmer & Jason Campbell (so yeah, being successfull with Dalton, Palmer & Campbell at QB made me laugh too when you said Tyrod doesn't fit into the scheme, we all know Dalton's arm strength made both Palmer & Campbell jealous as does his athleticism with Taylor... ) Last 3 years (Only comparison possible) : Taylor: TD/INT : 51-16 QBR : 92.76 YPA : 7.2 Cpl % : 62.6 Dalton: TD/INT : 68-27 QBR : 94.8 YPA : 7.5 Cpl % : 63.5 Remember Tyrod had Rex Ryan as a HC (well known QB whisperer ) |
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ivo17
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posted: 2018-03-14 12:51:46 (ID: 100125677) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
Browns signed RB Hyde on a 3 year deal. I like what John D has done with their offense so far. Gordon, Landry, Hyde, Taylor with Duke Johnson, Coleman, Njoku and their Oline...
Not bad at all But what does this mean fir the number 1 pick? Dont think it will be Barkley or a QB... B. Chubb??? That would be awesome with Garret on the other side. Run for your lives QB's Last edited on 2018-03-14 12:52:24 by ivo17 |
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oakbark
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posted: 2018-03-14 15:32:55 (ID: 100125683) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
ivo17 wrote:
Browns signed RB Hyde on a 3 year deal. I like what John D has done with their offense so far. Gordon, Landry, Hyde, Taylor with Duke Johnson, Coleman, Njoku and their Oline... Not bad at all But what does this mean fir the number 1 pick? Dont think it will be Barkley or a QB... B. Chubb??? That would be awesome with Garret on the other side. Run for your lives QB's[/quote Both QB and HB still in play for the Browns in my opinion, getting Hyde doesnt preclude spending a pick on Barkley as the reasons for why you spend pick 1 on a HB havent changed. It is because you think that guy is such a talent that you are willing to forego the pbvioya risks associated with the position. I also can see a trade down making sense with the Bills or other QB hungry team and a pick going on a DT later in the draft along with a DB/LB. Hyde is an interesting case, he flipped from very good to bog standard in a week. He is also an Injury risk. I do not lament his loss as a Niner fan. Certainly not in the same manner as when we lost Gore or Ricky Watters. He perhaps wasnt an ideal fit for Shanahan's scheme however and his contract isnt in the current climate excessive by any means ( i do think the Niners overpaid for McKinnon) I am happy the Browns stayed away from chasing a bunch of marquee name. Some of the contracts being bandied about are going to hamstring teams especially one like the Browns who have a lot of youngsters many of whom will justify bigger numbers in a couple of years. Last edited on 2018-03-14 15:39:02 by oakbark |
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ivo17
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posted: 2018-03-14 18:19:55 (ID: 100125692) Report Abuse |
Good bye iron man
The city of Cleveland should build a statue of him. |
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ivo17
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posted: 2018-03-14 18:20:46 (ID: 100125694) Report Abuse |
oakbark wrote:
ivo17 wrote:
Browns signed RB Hyde on a 3 year deal. I like what John D has done with their offense so far. Gordon, Landry, Hyde, Taylor with Duke Johnson, Coleman, Njoku and their Oline... Not bad at all But what does this mean fir the number 1 pick? Dont think it will be Barkley or a QB... B. Chubb??? That would be awesome with Garret on the other side. Run for your lives QB's[/quote Both QB and HB still in play for the Browns in my opinion, getting Hyde doesnt preclude spending a pick on Barkley as the reasons for why you spend pick 1 on a HB havent changed. It is because you think that guy is such a talent that you are willing to forego the pbvioya risks associated with the position. I also can see a trade down making sense with the Bills or other QB hungry team and a pick going on a DT later in the draft along with a DB/LB. Hyde is an interesting case, he flipped from very good to bog standard in a week. He is also an Injury risk. I do not lament his loss as a Niner fan. Certainly not in the same manner as when we lost Gore or Ricky Watters. He perhaps wasnt an ideal fit for Shanahan's scheme however and his contract isnt in the current climate excessive by any means ( i do think the Niners overpaid for McKinnon) I am happy the Browns stayed away from chasing a bunch of marquee name. Some of the contracts being bandied about are going to hamstring teams especially one like the Browns who have a lot of youngsters many of whom will justify bigger numbers in a couple of years. Off course they still need a QB and a RB. But it wont be at 1 I think. |
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TheTorturer
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posted: 2018-03-14 19:34:48 (ID: 100125701) Report Abuse |
What do you guy's think, was releasing Jordy Nelson a good move from the packers?
I mean Jordy did not have the best stats last season, but i think that was caused due to the injury of Rodgers. The new TE Graham is a good player no doubt, and they needed a TE, but Jordy and Arod was a good combination in the offense over several seasons. |
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oakbark
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posted: 2018-03-14 20:00:09 (ID: 100125706) Report Abuse |
TheTorturer wrote:
What do you guy's think, was releasing Jordy Nelson a good move from the packers? I mean Jordy did not have the best stats last season, but i think that was caused due to the injury of Rodgers. The new TE Graham is a good player no doubt, and they needed a TE, but Jordy and Arod was a good combination in the offense over several seasons. 33 years old and costing a lot of money. WR tens to be a position you can hit gold on later in the draft. With a top QB you tend to be able to find guys that can make plays and Rodgers has shown hes good enough to make WR look better than they are. Not sure Graham is the answer though. He is a long way from the player he was in his prime. Will offer an End Zone threat however. |
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