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ProvidenceLA
posted: 2018-02-22 19:24:53 (ID: 100124746) Report Abuse
how am I getting beat 41-3 by Maykop when guy only uses ONE PLAY the whole game? you would think the playbook penalty would kick in and maybe give my team a shot or something ? is this the way the game is supposed to be played now, just one formation? why even mess around with the playbook when all you need is ONE FORMATION to win games? am I missing something here because if that happens irl someone gets fired quick, but when it happens here its "strategy"
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MonsterT95
posted: 2018-02-22 19:50:30 (ID: 100124755)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
Using on formation and using just one play isn't the same thing.

Plus, the lopsided tactic penalty impact isn't as strong as a weak TC or PC ones, as said in the manual

Last edited on 2018-02-22 19:51:30 by MonsterT95

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ProvidenceLA
posted: 2018-02-22 20:03:01 (ID: 100124760)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
so its perfectly fine to use shotgun the whole game against a formation meant to counter it without ONE interception? im guessing the 3-4-4 formation is the absolute best formation since it shut down a team using the same plays and even more?

Last edited on 2018-02-22 20:06:29 by ProvidenceLA

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posted: 2018-02-22 20:14:26 (ID: 100124761) Report Abuse
You could help yourself by taking a short break, cause it seems you are somehow angry. After the short break, please consider a mix out of the following explanations:

Yes, one formation does not mean one play. The lopsided tactics thing is not based on formations only.

Lopsided tactics penalties do not help winning a game.

Creating mismatches helps winning a game.

Playing two games in a row using same tactics and same personel will create two different results.

I would love to see a friendly game between these two teams, using same personel and tactics. In my opinion, this game here was bad luck for your team...and I believe you would see close games, and even wins of your team if you repeat the show.
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MonsterT95
posted: 2018-02-22 20:15:52 (ID: 100124762) Report Abuse
I didn't say that I agree with running SG4 the whole game, such tactics eliminated me in the SC PO last season and got me upset, but that's the way this game is built right now.

Looking at your game, you either play pass defense only formations, which resulted in higher yard per carry than yard per attempt against such formations, or full run defense formations (3 DBs against SG4) which resulted in fairly high yards per attempt.

I remember having read somewhere that Pete would replace the SG4 formation, but as I'm not able to quote it properly, maybe someone else could confirm this.

Seasons ago, many managers didn't want the coach Karma (still just an indicator, having no effect on games right now) to have any influence, which sometimes can lead to this kind of results.
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ProvidenceLA
posted: 2018-02-22 20:26:40 (ID: 100124764)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Yes, one formation does not mean one play. The lopsided tactics thing is not based on formations only.

Lopsided tactics penalties do not help winning a game.


why is the function even ingame if it isn't the case? how does the sim even interpret that and then concludes my dime package is the same and then let it procceed to get torched when dime is especially meant to cover 4wr?

pete wrote:
Creating mismatches helps winning a game.

Playing two games in a row using same tactics and same personel will create two different results.


this is an oxymoron. I need further explanation please.

Last edited on 2018-02-22 20:28:59 by ProvidenceLA

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posted: 2018-02-22 20:32:54 (ID: 100124765) Report Abuse
He was fooling you a few times...Imagine, I want to make you believe I will rush out of a certain formation, at a certain situation (yards, downs). I will just rush a few times, waiting for your to adapt, maybe your defense is going with a 4 or 5 men line due this. And then, I will just pass deep out of a similar situation, out of this formation. If I am a little bit lucky, I would have fooled your defense.

However, he was just putting much more pressure on your defense by playing the same formation all game long. By doing so, he took away one of the parameters you make your defensive decisions on. Not saying this is a good tactic, or nice one, gentlemenlike or whatever else...but of course it is a valid tactic. And it worked out well for him against you. It really depends on your defensive playbook of this attempt is succesful or not.
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ProvidenceLA
posted: 2018-02-22 20:41:33 (ID: 100124766) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
He was fooling you a few times...Imagine, I want to make you believe I will rush out of a certain formation, at a certain situation (yards, downs). I will just rush a few times, waiting for your to adapt, maybe your defense is going with a 4 or 5 men line due this. And then, I will just pass deep out of a similar situation, out of this formation. If I am a little bit lucky, I would have fooled your defense.

However, he was just putting much more pressure on your defense by playing the same formation all game long. By doing so, he took away one of the parameters you make your defensive decisions on. Not saying this is a good tactic, or nice one, gentlemenlike or whatever else...but of course it is a valid tactic. And it worked out well for him against you. It really depends on your defensive playbook of this attempt is succesful or not.


okay, well that's something. looks like I learned something new today, will have to thank Maykop sometime. thanks for the explanation pete and to be exact im not mad at anyone but myself, this is getting fixed immediately and i'm better off right now losing the way I did.
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posted: 2018-02-22 20:43:08 (ID: 100124767) Report Abuse
Cheers, and if you need some more cheers, review the game you had yesterday against my drinkers

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