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posted: 2018-03-17 11:35:33 (ID: 100125829)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
It makes perfect sense to me that if a LB plays 5000 snaps at LB he's probably going to be more experienced playing LB than one that has played 2500 at LB and 2500 at OL.
I understand people try to argue there have been players who've played O and D and that they feel it's a strategic decision to give more snaps to one player that would've gone to someone else. This would only be valid if they were training the player to play both positions and the vast majority of these players are not. Once they are trained up they go to their main position full time so someone else can get more snaps.
When teams played guys on O and D it was to benefit the play on the field, it's the opposite here, i doubt may people are going to play a DL, like The Fridge (who played for the London Monarchs for a bit ) as RB in a really important game.

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posted: 2018-03-17 12:55:22 (ID: 100125830) Report Abuse
Jonny Utah wrote:
i doubt may people are going to play a DL, like The Fridge (who played for the London Monarchs for a bit ) as RB in a really important game.


The Fridge scored a TD in a Superbowl, is that an important game
Although the game was decided when he scored.
However, also now, a lot of Coaches utilize players at other Positions in meaningfull special situations.
WR defend a hail mary attempt, DL as FB or TE (JJ Watt anyone) to utilize their combination of size and speed.
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posted: 2018-03-17 13:29:41 (ID: 100125831) Report Abuse
Just to be clear, the penalty only kicks in if the player is a starter on both sides of the ball? For example, there would be no penalty if a player was a starting OL and he also played a few snaps at DL, right?
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posted: 2018-03-17 13:35:18 (ID: 100125833) Report Abuse
Meitheisman wrote:
Just to be clear, the penalty only kicks in if the player is a starter on both sides of the ball? For example, there would be no penalty if a player was a starting OL and he also played a few snaps at DL, right?


I did understand, that a player out of position gets a penalty in Experience gain.
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Meitheisman
posted: 2018-03-17 13:37:50 (ID: 100125834) Report Abuse
Hum... so a backup I'm training with my CB coach because I don't have a SF coach will gain less EXP if I play him at SF than if I played him at CB?
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posted: 2018-03-17 14:03:40 (ID: 100125835) Report Abuse
Meitheisman wrote:
Hum... so a backup I'm training with my CB coach because I don't have a SF coach will gain less EXP if I play him at SF than if I played him at CB?


Prte said a few snaps wont make a difference. It was more that players playing full time both ways get a penalty. The reference as I understood it is down to total number of snaps so those players playing a lot of snaps get penalised.

It is more helpful to think of the mechanic in terms of this game rather than NFL systems. The way that the experience mechanic worked meant that by playing both ways you can bypass the intended system for Experience gain and thus a countermeasure was put in place.
An another note the Fridge was a gimmick introduced as a response to a perceived sleight by Bill Walsh by Mike Ditka. In terms of football there was no need for the Fridge to be put in there to run the ball in. They had a guy named Sweetness in the backfield already. The fridge totalled 5 yards and 2TD's in his career, Let's not exaggerate his offensive workload or contribution.

Also Peyton was better that the Fridge got his Superbowl TD and he didn't in his glorious career.
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posted: 2018-03-17 15:11:29 (ID: 100125839) Report Abuse
Shanny wrote:
Jonny Utah wrote:
i doubt may people are going to play a DL, like The Fridge (who played for the London Monarchs for a bit ) as RB in a really important game.


The Fridge scored a TD in a Superbowl, is that an important game
Although the game was decided when he scored.
However, also now, a lot of Coaches utilize players at other Positions in meaningfull special situations.
WR defend a hail mary attempt, DL as FB or TE (JJ Watt anyone) to utilize their combination of size and speed.

I meant they wouldn't in RZA because it wouldn't help them as opposed to real life where they would to gain an advantage, that's why i used Perry as an example
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posted: 2018-03-17 16:30:42 (ID: 100125844) Report Abuse
oakbark wrote:
Meitheisman wrote:
Hum... so a backup I'm training with my CB coach because I don't have a SF coach will gain less EXP if I play him at SF than if I played him at CB?


Prte said a few snaps wont make a difference. It was more that players playing full time both ways get a penalty. The reference as I understood it is down to total number of snaps so those players playing a lot of snaps get penalised.


The part of the manual Pete quoted talks about players "Out of Position" and nothing about players playing both ways so it'd be good to know if the penalty is applied to all snaps taken out of position or not.

Against bots I have players taking snaps at multiple positions like FB/RB/WR or LB/CB/SF and since the manual doesn't say anything about "playing both ways" I wonder if my players are getting penalized or not.
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posted: 2018-03-17 18:00:08 (ID: 100125850) Report Abuse
Meitheisman wrote:
Just to be clear, the penalty only kicks in if the player is a starter on both sides of the ball? For example, there would be no penalty if a player was a starting OL and he also played a few snaps at DL, right?


A few snaps...but not 70+ on each side of the ball
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posted: 2018-03-17 18:03:31 (ID: 100125851) Report Abuse
Meitheisman wrote:
it'd be good to know if the penalty is applied to all snaps taken out of position or not.


It is not about where the player makes his snaps, but about the total number of snaps per game. Experience is awarded based on the number of snaps, and we just limited the number of snaps per game and player to gan max possible experience. If a players exceeds this maximum, his gain per snap is just lower...
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