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Poll: What to do with the training progress calculation during negotiations? (see description in first post),
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spartans11
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posted: 2018-05-09 03:35:16 (ID: 100128118) Report Abuse | ||||
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I am a little slow some times. I am going to put this into simple English.
Option A - no change to training Option B- young players do better, old players do worse Pete, am I correct in this? |
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| posted: 2018-05-09 05:19:13 (ID: 100128122) Report Abuse | |||||
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spartans11 wrote:
I am a little slow some times. I am going to put this into simple English. Option A - no change to training Option B- young players do better, old players do worse Pete, am I correct in this? No, the poll is only about contract negotiation. The training was changed anyway. |
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oakbark
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posted: 2018-05-09 05:30:08 (ID: 100128124) Report Abuse | ||||
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jack6 wrote:
spartans11 wrote:
I am a little slow some times. I am going to put this into simple English. Option A - no change to training Option B- young players do better, old players do worse Pete, am I correct in this? No, the poll is only about contract negotiation. The training was changed anyway. Its quite a game changer in terms of strategy, my last few seasons have revolved around me picking up high EXP vets not quite their in terms of skills cheaply and then rounding them out at the top end. Now I have a roster filled with not quite rounded out players lol!! Anyways its going to take a mini rebuild and different strategy of sorts Now but I like the change overall. Sad to see a few of my guys not quite get there who i was hoping were going to be studs for a couple of years. One in particular is bringing a tear to my eye as we have been through a lot together and I was going to pay the fee to keep him from retiring but now dang hes out of here!! |
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| posted: 2018-05-09 06:33:24 (ID: 100128127) Report Abuse | |||||
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What are you talking about?
Based on the last training u p d a t e the young guys do train faster (a lot based on my YA results, almost 2X for physicals and 1.5Xfor other skills) and the old ones do more or less the same (31 year old has 0.7 overall gain a 30 year old has 0.5, likely based on TW and rounding issues here), maybe a bit less for very old players. So from current perspective the young ones will just get there faster now and the old guys 30+ might slow a bit down, but at that point they should be on the planned peak anyhow, since they can retire every season. |
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| posted: 2018-05-09 06:43:06 (ID: 100128131) Report Abuse | |||||
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Yashin wrote:
pete wrote:
For the poll: Option A: We could leave the calculation as slow as it is today. This will result in players ignoring their now better progress while negotiating contracts. This means as well the jumps between the single negotiating seasons wil be more harsh. But, it would create a better benefit out of the HR Department, why this is my personal preference. Option B: Adapt the expectation to the new training progress. It is the opposite of option A, therefore see A and imagine the opposite outcome. Let me try to understand if I understood it correctly. Option A A younger player wion't know that he is going to grow faster, so he won't be greedy in contract negotiations, therefore younger players will be underpaid wrt to their future growth (e.g. a three years contract will be signed for the same amount as today, even if we know that after 3 years the player will be much better than his wage). An older player will refuse to admit he won't grow anymore and he will expect to be paid as a youngster of the same skill levels. Option B Everyone knows how he will grow in the next future and raise/reduce their expectations in term of money accordingly. Youngers will be better paid and older ones will accept for lower wages than the former contracts. Spot on! |
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| posted: 2018-05-09 14:19:47 (ID: 100128162) Report Abuse | |||||
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The one downside (can I really call it that?), is that I had a YA player's Str jump from the 33s to the 35s, and went yellow, so I can't say for certain what is red cap will be (39 or 40). But I also had a YA who was going to red at 49, but he jumped from 48.9 to 50, so that was a good day for him
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Superpippo
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posted: 2018-05-09 14:37:05 (ID: 100128164) Report Abuse | ||||
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ptdoc2017 wrote:
The one downside (can I really call it that?), is that I had a YA player's Str jump from the 33s to the 35s, and went yellow, so I can't say for certain what is red cap will be (39 or 40). But I also had a YA who was going to red at 49, but he jumped from 48.9 to 50, so that was a good day for him I wouldn't call that a downside, you'll know for sure in 3 updates |
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scottishbronco
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posted: 2018-05-09 15:21:53 (ID: 100128172) Report Abuse | ||||
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I have yet to make the jump into HR mode so do we have to negotiate contract's with our drafted player's when they arrive on the team?
With option B, will this mean that a 50 rated TW 3rd round pick know's he is going to improve dramatically and will request a more inflated contract? |
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| posted: 2018-05-09 15:24:39 (ID: 100128174) Report Abuse | |||||
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scottishbronco wrote:
I have yet to make the jump into HR mode so do we have to negotiate contract's with our drafted player's when they arrive on the team? With option B, will this mean that a 50 rated TW 3rd round pick know's he is going to improve dramatically and will request a more inflated contract? If you switch now, you have time to negotiate contracts until short before the next season rollover. B: yes! |
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oakbark
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posted: 2018-05-09 17:17:54 (ID: 100128179) Report Abuse | ||||
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jack6 wrote:
What are you talking about? Based on the last training u p d a t e the young guys do train faster (a lot based on my YA results, almost 2X for physicals and 1.5Xfor other skills) and the old ones do more or less the same (31 year old has 0.7 overall gain a 30 year old has 0.5, likely based on TW and rounding issues here), maybe a bit less for very old players. So from current perspective the young ones will just get there faster now and the old guys 30+ might slow a bit down, but at that point they should be on the planned peak anyhow, since they can retire every season. I was basing this on Pete's description which made the rate of non progress seem much faster if it doesn't pan out that way excellent. |
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