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Sharkn20
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posted: 2018-05-26 18:13:46 (ID: 100129138) Report Abuse |
athos wrote:
ptdoc2017 wrote:
athos wrote:
From my match today: 1:23 1 and 10 to go on own 16, Hugh Lewis (OC) snaps the ball to Bran Harris (QB), Bran Harris (QB) selected Forbes MacBrayne (TE/R) as target, the pass goes inner right to the receiver, who catches the ball, Bergsveinn Þorleifsson (FS/C) missed his chance for a tackle,the result is a 84 yards pass (Pro set vs. 4-4-3) 0:58 touchdown Forbes MacBrayne has a speed rating of 36.3 Despite the FS missing the tackle, surely this shouldn’t happen? Is it a waste training Speed now?? If everyone was hustling, than no, but how many times do players give up on a play? It does happen I've got to say that even though it worked out in my favour this time, I find it a bit depressing What about blockers paving the way downfield? |
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Captain Jack
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posted: 2018-05-26 20:09:39 (ID: 100129148) Report Abuse |
athos wrote:
ptdoc2017 wrote:
athos wrote:
From my match today: 1:23 1 and 10 to go on own 16, Hugh Lewis (OC) snaps the ball to Bran Harris (QB), Bran Harris (QB) selected Forbes MacBrayne (TE/R) as target, the pass goes inner right to the receiver, who catches the ball, Bergsveinn Þorleifsson (FS/C) missed his chance for a tackle,the result is a 84 yards pass (Pro set vs. 4-4-3) 0:58 touchdown Forbes MacBrayne has a speed rating of 36.3 Despite the FS missing the tackle, surely this shouldn’t happen? Is it a waste training Speed now?? If everyone was hustling, than no, but how many times do players give up on a play? It does happen I've got to say that even though it worked out in my favour this time, I find it a bit depressing Agreed! |
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Captain Jack
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posted: 2018-05-26 20:10:39 (ID: 100129149) Report Abuse |
Buddy Ryan wrote:
ptdoc2017 wrote:
athos wrote:
From my match today: 1:23 1 and 10 to go on own 16, Hugh Lewis (OC) snaps the ball to Bran Harris (QB), Bran Harris (QB) selected Forbes MacBrayne (TE/R) as target, the pass goes inner right to the receiver, who catches the ball, Bergsveinn Þorleifsson (FS/C) missed his chance for a tackle,the result is a 84 yards pass (Pro set vs. 4-4-3) 0:58 touchdown Forbes MacBrayne has a speed rating of 36.3 Despite the FS missing the tackle, surely this shouldn’t happen? Is it a waste training Speed now?? If everyone was hustling, than no, but how many times do players give up on a play? It does happen the problem on that play might have been that the opponents QB had enough time with no pressure for a 36 speed TE to get open for a medium pass in the first place - at that point, the S in coverage is the last line of defense, especially in 443, every other defender has to play zones closer to the line of scrimmage But surely someone would catch a 36 SPD guy. My grandmother can run faster than that. |
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oakbark
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posted: 2018-05-26 20:27:12 (ID: 100129151) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
Captain Jack wrote:
Buddy Ryan wrote:
ptdoc2017 wrote:
athos wrote:
From my match today: 1:23 1 and 10 to go on own 16, Hugh Lewis (OC) snaps the ball to Bran Harris (QB), Bran Harris (QB) selected Forbes MacBrayne (TE/R) as target, the pass goes inner right to the receiver, who catches the ball, Bergsveinn Þorleifsson (FS/C) missed his chance for a tackle,the result is a 84 yards pass (Pro set vs. 4-4-3) 0:58 touchdown Forbes MacBrayne has a speed rating of 36.3 Despite the FS missing the tackle, surely this shouldn’t happen? Is it a waste training Speed now?? If everyone was hustling, than no, but how many times do players give up on a play? It does happen the problem on that play might have been that the opponents QB had enough time with no pressure for a 36 speed TE to get open for a medium pass in the first place - at that point, the S in coverage is the last line of defense, especially in 443, every other defender has to play zones closer to the line of scrimmage But surely someone would catch a 36 SPD guy. My grandmother can run faster than that. Not always lol, #slide4" target="_blank">Fat Guy TD (credit to Bleacher Report) 2 and 3 are my favourites. I know it's meaningless bit the convo reminded me and it's work a look and a chuckle for any football fan. Last edited on 2018-05-26 20:32:36 by oakbark |
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Meitheisman
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posted: 2018-05-27 12:02:11 (ID: 100129179) Report Abuse |
Buddy Ryan wrote:
ptdoc2017 wrote:
athos wrote:
From my match today: 1:23 1 and 10 to go on own 16, Hugh Lewis (OC) snaps the ball to Bran Harris (QB), Bran Harris (QB) selected Forbes MacBrayne (TE/R) as target, the pass goes inner right to the receiver, who catches the ball, Bergsveinn Þorleifsson (FS/C) missed his chance for a tackle,the result is a 84 yards pass (Pro set vs. 4-4-3) 0:58 touchdown Forbes MacBrayne has a speed rating of 36.3 Despite the FS missing the tackle, surely this shouldn’t happen? Is it a waste training Speed now?? If everyone was hustling, than no, but how many times do players give up on a play? It does happen the problem on that play might have been that the opponents QB had enough time with no pressure for a 36 speed TE to get open for a medium pass in the first place - at that point, the S in coverage is the last line of defense, especially in 443, every other defender has to play zones closer to the line of scrimmage It says "the pass goes inner right to the receiver" so it's not a medium pass and either the LOLB or one of the MLBs should cover the TE and both of them should try to catch him after the catch. |
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posted: 2018-05-27 13:54:34 (ID: 100129184) Report Abuse | |
Meitheisman wrote:
Buddy Ryan wrote:
ptdoc2017 wrote:
athos wrote:
From my match today: 1:23 1 and 10 to go on own 16, Hugh Lewis (OC) snaps the ball to Bran Harris (QB), Bran Harris (QB) selected Forbes MacBrayne (TE/R) as target, the pass goes inner right to the receiver, who catches the ball, Bergsveinn Þorleifsson (FS/C) missed his chance for a tackle,the result is a 84 yards pass (Pro set vs. 4-4-3) 0:58 touchdown Forbes MacBrayne has a speed rating of 36.3 Despite the FS missing the tackle, surely this shouldn’t happen? Is it a waste training Speed now?? If everyone was hustling, than no, but how many times do players give up on a play? It does happen the problem on that play might have been that the opponents QB had enough time with no pressure for a 36 speed TE to get open for a medium pass in the first place - at that point, the S in coverage is the last line of defense, especially in 443, every other defender has to play zones closer to the line of scrimmage It says "the pass goes inner right to the receiver" so it's not a medium pass and either the LOLB or one of the MLBs should cover the TE and both of them should try to catch him after the catch. There are such things as inner medium passes. But anyway - wrong defense/wrong personnel on the field and FS can't be everywhere. |
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Meitheisman
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posted: 2018-05-27 16:09:27 (ID: 100129188) Report Abuse |
punch drunk wrote:
Meitheisman wrote:
Buddy Ryan wrote:
ptdoc2017 wrote:
athos wrote:
From my match today: 1:23 1 and 10 to go on own 16, Hugh Lewis (OC) snaps the ball to Bran Harris (QB), Bran Harris (QB) selected Forbes MacBrayne (TE/R) as target, the pass goes inner right to the receiver, who catches the ball, Bergsveinn Þorleifsson (FS/C) missed his chance for a tackle,the result is a 84 yards pass (Pro set vs. 4-4-3) 0:58 touchdown Forbes MacBrayne has a speed rating of 36.3 Despite the FS missing the tackle, surely this shouldn’t happen? Is it a waste training Speed now?? If everyone was hustling, than no, but how many times do players give up on a play? It does happen the problem on that play might have been that the opponents QB had enough time with no pressure for a 36 speed TE to get open for a medium pass in the first place - at that point, the S in coverage is the last line of defense, especially in 443, every other defender has to play zones closer to the line of scrimmage It says "the pass goes inner right to the receiver" so it's not a medium pass and either the LOLB or one of the MLBs should cover the TE and both of them should try to catch him after the catch. There are such things as inner medium passes. Of course, but when that's the case the distance of the pass is included in the play description, no distance in the play description means that it was a short pass. If you look at the player's stats he got 3 catches for 105 yards and 85 yards after the catch. This proves that each pass was 6/7 yards in the air and the rest of the distance was gained after the catch, in the case of the TD that's 77 yards after the catch. |
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Buddy Ryan
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posted: 2018-05-27 16:25:38 (ID: 100129190) Report Abuse |
Meitheisman wrote:
Of course, but when that's the case the distance of the pass is included in the play description, no distance in the play description means that it was a short pass. nice catch, forgot about that Meitheisman wrote:
If you look at the player's stats he got 3 catches for 105 yards and 85 yards after the catch. This proves that each pass was 6/7 yards in the air and the rest of the distance was gained after the catch, in the case of the TD that's 77 yards after the catch. yeah I agree in that case its a bit weird. did not expect the FS in coverage on the TE on a short pass without any blitzing, that made me assume it was for 10+ yards |
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posted: 2018-05-27 16:27:09 (ID: 100129191) Report Abuse | |
Meitheisman wrote:
If you look at the player's stats he got 3 catches for 105 yards and 85 yards after the catch. This proves that each pass was 6/7 yards in the air and the rest of the distance was gained after the catch, in the case of the TD that's 77 yards after the catch. It proves NOT "each pass was 6/7 in the air and the rest of the distance was gained after the catch, in the case of the TD that's 77 yards after the catch". It proves the average of 3 catches, but not a certain play. |
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athos
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posted: 2018-05-27 17:17:55 (ID: 100129194) Report Abuse |
pete wrote:
Meitheisman wrote:
If you look at the player's stats he got 3 catches for 105 yards and 85 yards after the catch. This proves that each pass was 6/7 yards in the air and the rest of the distance was gained after the catch, in the case of the TD that's 77 yards after the catch. It proves NOT "each pass was 6/7 in the air and the rest of the distance was gained after the catch, in the case of the TD that's 77 yards after the catch". It proves the average of 3 catches, but not a certain play. It's still all very disappointing, despite all the arguments, and despite the fact the Accies were the beneficiaries. I wouldn't expect Forbes Macbrayne to score an 84yd TD against a Robot team It's taken the gloss of of training, and seems to negate having high skill players. Nobody else on the defence missed a tackle, so as well as Speed, what about Positioning and Vision?..... My opponents must have been running around like the proverbial 'headless chickens'. |
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