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jack6
Leverkusen Leopards

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posted: 2018-08-07 19:16:04 (ID: 100131554) Report Abuse
Congratulation on the win, TheTorturer.
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Captain Jack
posted: 2018-08-07 22:29:37 (ID: 100131572) Report Abuse
What has happened to the Leopards? Have they been cursed?
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jack6
Leverkusen Leopards

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posted: 2018-08-08 05:28:30 (ID: 100131576) Report Abuse
Rebuilding/Restructuring roster and coaches, that's all.
Not sure this season will be a good one, but I think at least a decend one.

There is a reason you have so many players of mine now on your roster.
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Captain Jack
posted: 2018-08-08 09:45:13 (ID: 100131594) Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:
Rebuilding/Restructuring roster and coaches, that's all.
Not sure this season will be a good one, but I think at least a decend one.

There is a reason you have so many players of mine now on your roster.


Technically there are two reasons I have so many players of yours now on my roster - 1) You wanted to get rid of them; 2) I was desperate to get (any) players to fill out my roster

I have made a much better start to the season than I imagined - although I'm still disappointed that I had to do it this way.
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TheTorturer
posted: 2018-08-10 18:52:13 (ID: 100131720) Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:
Congratulation on the win, TheTorturer.


Sry for the late reply, but thank you!

How did i manage that?
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gatorfan1
posted: 2018-08-13 01:29:47 (ID: 100131775) Report Abuse
I feel accomplished after dismantling Torroles HardRock yesterday, I am afraid most of my schedule this season has me fighting the underdog position. I will be happy to see 6-8 wins, in spite of a dramatic increase in talent that I have acquired as of late.
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jack6
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posted: 2018-08-13 05:29:20 (ID: 100131779) Report Abuse
For a few days Captain Jack had the highest elo-ranked team in monarchs region.
Then his team lost and now he has to fight on top of the TC stuff also the moral stuff.

I hope you get your team in order with all the tools available and won't quit.

I always pray to Peter to make the game a bit more motivative and sustainable, but of cause as single developer it's hard to change stuff all by your own.

That harsh HR or non rule is such an example. The way it is since it was introduced makes no sense but it's that way since ages.

But don't worry, the season is long and at least TC will get up quickly if all play all games. You might have to sit out Supercup playoffs and maybe even league playoffs, which I don't think will happen, but the team will become a new bunch of players to not start over, just to reload.
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Captain Jack
posted: 2018-08-13 21:20:53 (ID: 100131818) Report Abuse
Thanks Jack. As you know my complaint is that the firing of players without contracts is too severe. It is justice (I didn't follow the rules - albeit because I was unable to do so at the time) but it is not mercy.

What is worse is that is that it's not just the firing of the players but having to get (in my case) 35 on the TM in the space of 3 days, paying a fortune for them, going over the limit so having to fire some, then starting on low TC which sets you back in competing in games, morale losses due to the high ELO (which is not adjusted for the 'new' team) - and of course the personal loss of players that you have groomed for seasons plus having to create a new team identity with the new players. Then to add to that a few managers chipped in with unhelpful comments when I was making suggestions to help people in the future who might face this same sort of problem.

What did help are the few messages of encouragement from some Monarchs managers and also some from outside Monarchs who have experienced the same problems.

I don't think I can win the division this season or even qualify for the Supercup but hopefully by next season be somewhat back on track. am going to ask Pete to follow up on this.
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detroit
posted: 2018-08-14 02:08:44 (ID: 100131820) Report Abuse
If it's any help I will be happy to stomp on your team twice in the division this year,
God willing...

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pete
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posted: 2018-08-14 11:07:15 (ID: 100131831) Report Abuse
Captain Jack wrote:
Thanks Jack. As you know my complaint is that the firing of players without contracts is too severe. It is justice (I didn't follow the rules - albeit because I was unable to do so at the time) but it is not mercy.

What is worse is that is that it's not just the firing of the players but having to get (in my case) 35 on the TM in the space of 3 days, paying a fortune for them, going over the limit so having to fire some, then starting on low TC which sets you back in competing in games, morale losses due to the high ELO (which is not adjusted for the 'new' team) - and of course the personal loss of players that you have groomed for seasons plus having to create a new team identity with the new players. Then to add to that a few managers chipped in with unhelpful comments when I was making suggestions to help people in the future who might face this same sort of problem.

What did help are the few messages of encouragement from some Monarchs managers and also some from outside Monarchs who have experienced the same problems.

I don't think I can win the division this season or even qualify for the Supercup but hopefully by next season be somewhat back on track. am going to ask Pete to follow up on this.


First of all: of course it is harsh to see half of the team go. Of course is it harsh to buy 35 new players. Of course the hits out of TC and so on are harsh. Of course the changed "real ELO" of the team causes trouble...this is all true.

But: this is a chain of follow-ups, caused by one single mistake: not having your contracts been done.

What we do against this already:

- we did not force you to use the HR Department, and when you switch it on, you receive a warning.
- we allow you to disable the HR if things change in real life


However, you decided to receive the bonus from the HR, and sticked with it.

So we did many things to keep you away from trouble, again:
- we mark such players in your HR department and roster and training page...
- you receive warnings out of the Coaches assistant player would leave your team if you don't do anything
- you received at least 2 PMs before the offseason, containing warnings you would lose players


You still managed to ignore all of these (due whatever reasons). How may I help you? Creating another security net below the existing security net? C'mon! How could I justify such a change against those managers who read warnings, made sure having the contracts set?

I mean, this is a simple game. Nobody loses anything if contracts are not set - just a few players in a freaking game.

A game has to be fair: if one accepts the hassle of doing conracts and receives a reward (saving money) for this, it is OK. But if another one receives reward without having the hassle, it becomes unfair.

Could we start thinking from this side before we judge the inner mechanism of this game, please?

And no, the game did not cause all these actions you complained about. You told the game you dislike continuing your contracts, by not creating new ones. The game acted accordingly.

I know this may sound harsh to you. But please, read twice. I am not here to please a single individual. I am here to provide fun for many individuals. I cannot spoil the fun of many for a single indivudual. At least I don't know how to make it.

Yes, I understand your suggestion was to protect others from this situation. I applaude to you for this, and I am sorry if other managers answered in a less helpful manner. However, I am really unsure if I should fix it. The game is a mix of advantages and disadvantages. If we remove one disadvantage, I would have to kill another advantage as well. If I ignore this rule, this single, this golden rule, I create kind of a unbalanced thing.

Most important: we have this discussion in the global forum, we have another discussion here. I received several PM for this topic, and email as well. From now on I will ignore this post here, the PM, the email. I will focus on the discussion in the global forum, and copy this long post from here to that. Please, I cannot keep together discussions usingdifferent communication ways. I am sorry!

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