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janos
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posted: 2018-11-09 18:36:53 (ID: 100134330) Report Abuse |
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The transfer market is dead.
It is a problem on its own, but getting out of a financial crisis is impossible as well. Today my 23y 4star experience CB was sold at its initial 500k price. This is nonsense! I was forced to put him on the market, otherwise it would have been cut. Shouldn't we brainstorm on how to fix the training system? At least I think the number of training slots should be limited... |
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Did you advertise him in the transfermarket forum?
He has 46 speed, i imagine most people would view that as too slow for a CB and not strong, 43, or intelligent enough, 37.5, for a LB. Last edited on 2018-11-09 18:44:59 by Jonny Utah |
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janos
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posted: 2018-11-09 18:50:47 (ID: 100134333) Report Abuse |
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Jonny Utah wrote:
Did you advertise him in the transfermarket forum? He has 46 speed, i imagine most people would view that as too slow for a CB and not strong, 43, or intelligent enough, 37.5, for a LB. Yes, he is not perfect with str=50, spd=50, and int=50. I haven't advertised. Do you think, that anyone is checking the ads...? BTW... I do not think he is worth less than a friendly game income... |
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noodle
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posted: 2018-11-09 19:02:18 (ID: 100134334) Report Abuse |
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Hi,
how are you linking training with transfers? because we can train good players and so don't need to buy? there is some truth in that but for me it was all relative, when i was a newer team i trained some players but they were not that great, as time has gone on my YA rookies have got better. same with transfers, when i was a newer team i bought a few, and as time has gone on, some were replaced as they were not good enough as my team developed and now i buy less, perhaps 1 or 2 a season maximum to fill gaps from retirees that i cant fill with YA promotions or current 2nd string etc. I wonder how you have got in a financial crisis, that would be the first thing to decipher. if you don't figure out how, you might just repeat it again in a few seasons. my team is only 2 years old, but nowhere near financial crisis and i have about 1.5 million more in player/ coach salary. |
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janos wrote:
Jonny Utah wrote:
Did you advertise him in the transfermarket forum? He has 46 speed, i imagine most people would view that as too slow for a CB and not strong, 43, or intelligent enough, 37.5, for a LB. Yes, he is not perfect with str=50, spd=50, and int=50. I haven't advertised. Do you think, that anyone is checking the ads...? BTW... I do not think he is worth less than a friendly game income... I do undefstand it's subjective and so what i'm about to say is my own view, but i've never bought a CB whith speed under 48, if lots of other people think like that it's understandable why he didn't sell for more. Last edited on 2018-11-09 19:20:07 by Jonny Utah |
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Dissolve
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posted: 2018-11-09 20:25:01 (ID: 100134339) Report Abuse |
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I don't think the "training system" is broken.
On the contrary, I think the current training system is actually as good as it ever has been. I think the 'problem' is that , in the past, some managers relied upon the transfer market to offload players that were very average ... or ... to offload players with ludicrously high contracts or ludicrously long contracts. Doesn't work any more ... the TM has changed (from a supply/demand perspective). Managers will now need to adapt, and to pose the question "will I be able to get out of this contract at a reasonable price ?" before signing players to contracts that could potentially damage their teams' finances (just like in real life, come to think of it  )
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Alasdaire
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posted: 2018-11-10 13:34:10 (ID: 100134348) Report Abuse |
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janos wrote:
Jonny Utah wrote:
Did you advertise him in the transfermarket forum? He has 46 speed, i imagine most people would view that as too slow for a CB and not strong, 43, or intelligent enough, 37.5, for a LB. Yes, he is not perfect with str=50, spd=50, and int=50. I haven't advertised. Do you think, that anyone is checking the ads...? BTW... I do not think he is worth less than a friendly game income... I check the ads. Checking them does not necessarily mean i will bit on these players but if they are not advertised i will not know if they are on the transfermarket so i will definetly will not bet on them. |
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noodle
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posted: 2018-11-10 23:25:43 (ID: 100134360) Report Abuse |
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Dissolve wrote:
Managers will now need to adapt, and to pose the question "will I be able to get out of this contract at a reasonable price ?" before signing players to contracts that could potentially damage their teams' finances top comment. this is why i love the HT department/ contracts so much. it makes it much more realistic for me, and tests my brain choosing which contracts to offer and when to offer them too. |
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Balbinjj
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posted: 2018-11-11 01:39:41 (ID: 100134362) Report Abuse |
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noodle wrote:
Dissolve wrote:
Managers will now need to adapt, and to pose the question "will I be able to get out of this contract at a reasonable price ?" before signing players to contracts that could potentially damage their teams' finances top comment. this is why i love the HT department/ contracts so much. it makes it much more realistic for me, and tests my brain choosing which contracts to offer and when to offer them too. Never thought that this really happens in the game. What usually happened to me was I let go of players who are asking for too much. So, how can a player's current contract be overprice? |
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janos
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posted: 2018-11-14 15:24:04 (ID: 100134423) Report Abuse |
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noodle wrote:
Hi, how are you linking training with transfers? because we can train good players and so don't need to buy? there is some truth in that but for me it was all relative, when i was a newer team i trained some players but they were not that great, as time has gone on my YA rookies have got better. same with transfers, when i was a newer team i bought a few, and as time has gone on, some were replaced as they were not good enough as my team developed and now i buy less, perhaps 1 or 2 a season maximum to fill gaps from retirees that i cant fill with YA promotions or current 2nd string etc. I wonder how you have got in a financial crisis, that would be the first thing to decipher. if you don't figure out how, you might just repeat it again in a few seasons. my team is only 2 years old, but nowhere near financial crisis and i have about 1.5 million more in player/ coach salary. When I had a 2yo team I didn't have a crisis either. And I want to sell now, but the market is dead. I have hardly ever purchased any player from the market, so relied on YA all the time. The problem with YA is, that initial experience of players is rather low (<2) comparing to draftees and until they are at a decent training level it is not possible to play them to collect more. The draftees experience is volatile. There are ones with 2 star, others with 3,5-4 star. That is absolutely unreal. So if they start with tck=20 their tackling skills practically spans out from 8 to 16. How can you close the gap in training with a guy tck=8 and exp=2 comparing to one with tck=16 and exp=4? Draftees should be close to each other in terms of performance. How can a draftee have 60-80% of all possible experiences already collected at the age of 21, after 2-3 years of NCAA...? There are so many training slots available to train to the market, that produces excess supply. So a guy with exp<4 is never purchased at the age of 28-30. Or I can mention a CB spd<48. Do div2 teams ignore spd=46, 47 CB-s, whose spd is still trainable...? |
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