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wsfjlt
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posted: 2019-01-13 22:32:26 (ID: 100135941) Report Abuse |
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good point about bots
some teams will end up with easier schedules year to year will always be different. |
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| posted: 2019-01-15 10:38:45 (ID: 100135994) Report Abuse | |
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wsfjlt wrote:
just my thoughts Each manager has to determine what is best for his team, NOT YOURS. In stead of complaining, build your team to win enough games, no matter whom you face and win it. If a managers team will inprove do to a loss, then that manager should set his team up for failure. This is were you are wrong my friend. Tanking has been declared not suitable and that's why Pete set up the penalty scale. Pete will correct me if I am wrong, but he put the warning system to prevent penalizing teams making a mistake in their PB, without any tanking intention. I assume if the risk of penalizing those guys was none, the penalties will strike faster. Losing on purpose when you are an established team is lame. By doing so you are stealing draft picks to teams who really need those (that's the reason why the draft exists!) and you may impact negatively the play-off picture. This is selfish, and all but fair-play. |
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wsfjlt
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posted: 2019-01-15 13:00:11 (ID: 100136001) Report Abuse |
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it is fair play a player or manager is not suppose to play so that other teams can succeed or not succeed a manager owner or what ever you want to call yourself is suppose to manage your team so that your team will eventually win and if not winning a game is best for your tea then yes you put in your back ups fire coaches ect where your teams chance of winning is null what you cant do is kick the ball away on first down and mess up the engines with ridiculous plays
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| posted: 2019-01-15 14:05:13 (ID: 100136003) Report Abuse | |
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I can't help to highligth I am doing the effort speaking your language. A minimum effort with punctuation and syntax would be highly appreciated in return.
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Emperor Merp
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posted: 2019-01-15 14:26:13 (ID: 100136004) Report Abuse |
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@ Kanar. I get your point on a better team getting a better draft pick than a lessor team because of tanking. It throws off playoff races and seeds as well.
Now can you explain how a bot doesn't do the same? After all if it's bad for the game, it's bad for the game right? |
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Sverngolld
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posted: 2019-01-15 14:32:52 (ID: 100136005) Report Abuse |
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Bot teams have no intent to tank. That's the difference. They play to the best of their ability, which we all know is low. However, there are bot teams who's teams are a lot higher rated as well.
Higher ranked human teams that deliberately "tank" games to get a higher draft pick is the point behind the penalty. I think throwing games to secure the higher pick is unsportsmanlike, with diminishing returns. Throwing a bunch of games to get a chance at one phenomenal player is really stupid, considering the availability of developed players on the TM. |
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| posted: 2019-01-15 20:57:49 (ID: 100136026) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |
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There are two differences imo.
1. Bots have no free will. Therefore they do not lose on purpose which is the mindset I blame in tanking strategy. 2. Bots pick draftees randomly. They may get a gem but also a real trash at round 1. The chances they get trash at round 2 and 3 are even higher while a tanker will draft smartly and penalize the teams needing those guys. My current team is not my first one. I spent many seasons with another one before. During those seasons I witnessed PO pictures being changed due to tanking on week 17 or during the whole season. And not later than tomorrow I will see a tanker with a 75+ rated squad picking before me. Edit: this tanker manager actualy did not prepare the draft which was similar to a bot pick at the end. Last edited on 2019-01-16 06:24:41 by Kanar |
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posted: 2019-01-15 21:45:02 (ID: 100136028) Report Abuse |
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Sverngolld wrote:
Bot teams have no intent to tank. That's the difference. They play to the best of their ability, which we all know is low. However, there are bot teams who's teams are a lot higher rated as well. Yes, No, and the truth within between. A Bot teams' ability is set by the engine. Its known as the "bot tactics". The ability of a bot team can be adjusted by the game-administration. Couple of seasons ago Pete changed the aspect of keeping players of human teams going bot (  ). Thats why some bot teams are higher rated; but they still lose games constantly since they lack of coaches, dont know how to depth chart and can not even call mediocre plays (somehow bot teams know only one defense formation for instance). Also, Bot teams release their draftees after draft immediately.
Imagine a league of having 2 bot teams only, and both in the same division. Some interesting threads to read in that regard: Dleayed scrubbing Tanking Warning/Penalty Bots taking over 2.x cya in the turf, Dudes   |
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spartans11
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posted: 2019-01-17 23:47:45 (ID: 100136162) Report Abuse |
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Kanar wrote:
wsfjlt wrote:
just my thoughts Each manager has to determine what is best for his team, NOT YOURS. In stead of complaining, build your team to win enough games, no matter whom you face and win it. If a managers team will inprove do to a loss, then that manager should set his team up for failure. This is were you are wrong my friend. Tanking has been declared not suitable and that's why Pete set up the penalty scale. Pete will correct me if I am wrong, but he put the warning system to prevent penalizing teams making a mistake in their PB, without any tanking intention. I assume if the risk of penalizing those guys was none, the penalties will strike faster. Losing on purpose when you are an established team is lame. By doing so you are stealing draft picks to teams who really need those (that's the reason why the draft exists!) and you may impact negatively the play-off picture. This is selfish, and all but fair-play. LOL, you should take a look at how the bottom half of the league drafts. I received my number 3 overall pick with the 24 or 25th pick. The easy number one and two picks did not get picked until the late teens. Several seasons ago you accused me of tanking (I actually had my wage down to 150k per week for half the season). Due to financial issues at the time I chose to be bad in the short run to be good in the long run. Here in the states you just need to look at major league baseball or the NBA to see real tanking with hundreds of millions of real dollars at stake. |
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| posted: 2019-01-18 05:09:08 (ID: 100136166) Report Abuse | |
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Trust the process...
Steve SD Blitz |
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