Community - American Football Management Simulator
AdBlocker active? It seems you are using software to block advertisements. You could help us if you could switch it off when visiting redzoneaction.org. The reason is very simple: Advertisements help us running the site, to offer you the game in a good quality for free. So if you like the game, please support us by purchasing a Supporter Account or disabling the AdBlocker on this site. Thank you very much!
Main / Suggestions / Option to send drafted 19 and 20 year olds to YA Search Forum
Navigation: |<   1 2  >   >|  
Rating:
Rating
Poster Message
IMGregory
Deflators

Usa   IMGregory owns a supporter account

Joined: 2015-08-08/S18
Posts: 104
Top Manager



 
posted: 2019-05-04 03:44:01 (ID: 100139492) Report Abuse
As we all should know by now, all players picked up via the draft are immediately placed on the main roster. But let's be honest, most of the time you pick up a player via the draft, very rarely are they going to see immediate action on the field, at least not any meaningful action. The only exceptions to that being if that player is already better than what you have or you need every player you get just to make a full roster, sometimes both.

for drafted players that are 21-23, there's not much you can do, but what about those 19 and 20 year olds that you pick up out of the draft? Honestly, if all they're going to be is essentially practice squad players (Spots 56-70 on the main roster.) until they reach 21, I feel their time could be better spent elsewhere, more specifically the Youth Academy, where they can develop the necessary skills better. Besides, if you try to sell the player, they'll just end up in that person's YA anyway, provided they have the space.

Here's some basic ideas I came up for it to help prevent any possible abuse:
* There should be a deadline as to when you can do this, most likely the exact same time as the deadline for selling retirees. If they remain on the main roster past that point, they are officially main roster players.
* The option only applies to players who were drafted in the most recent draft. (i.e., you can't keep a 19 year old draftee on the main roster for a season, then option him as a 20 year old.)
* Should you take the option on any drafted 19 or 20 year old players, then they must stay there for at least 1 whole season in the case of 19 year olds, or until the last game week before the rollover in the case of 20 year olds.
Quote   Reply   Edit  
BUUURNS
posted: 2019-05-07 07:04:53 (ID: 100139560) Report Abuse
This is a good idea all players under 20 should be in YA but could it lead to making a massive superstar as most RD1 draftees are 3.5 stars so may be worth saying if they under 20 and 3 stars or under they go into YA
Quote   Reply   Edit  
smokerteer
posted: 2019-05-07 08:42:23 (ID: 100139561) Report Abuse
I put this proposal forward a few weeks ago but it didn't go through when it came to polling.

The thing I find frustrating about this not being in place is that there are players on the draft board I won't draft because it would take too long to train them to a level where they would feature in my team, but if they were on the transfer market I would buy them and invest/sacrifice the extra training points on them to make them into useful members of the team at a reasonable age. At the moment I can do this on players on the transfer market or youth pulls but not for players on the draft board. This seems like an inconsistency to me that simply wouldn't happen in real life and shouldn't be happening here.

As for the 'if draft players go to the youth academy then people will create monsters' argument, here is my thinking. Experienced managers will build a player to a level that he thinks is needed for that position. Sure, speed and strength often exceed that because they are 'free'. Last draft I drafted a QB who, luckily for me, capped late so will be 'fully trained' and ready to play for my team when he reaches 26. After he is 26 I will not be then be training him into a monster because of the wages it would take up (creating two 50 ratings in non-physical attributes would cost you $500,000 per update). So even if you could live with the expense of a monster taking up that much of your wage bill, I doubt you'd want to do it twice!!!

It seems to me that the only 'real' possible negative for this is if Pete can't find a way to allow managers to promote these draftees in the first few weeks to the full squad without it impacting on the 'promote to seniors' ticket. This I think would be harsh on newer managers that want to play their draftees straight away and also want to promote a player from their academy but still only have 3 tickets - as it would force these managers into extending their youth academy before they feel ready.
Quote   Reply   Edit  
pete
H2TAGIT4Q

Europe   pete owns a supporter account   pete is a Knight of RedZoneAction.org

Joined: 2011-09-01/S00
Posts: 20495
Top Manager



 
posted: 2019-05-07 09:08:12 (ID: 100139562) Report Abuse
smokerteer wrote:

It seems to me that the only 'real' possible negative for this is if Pete can't find a way to allow managers to promote these draftees in the first few weeks to the full squad without it impacting on the 'promote to seniors' ticket. This I think would be harsh on newer managers that want to play their draftees straight away and also want to promote a player from their academy but still only have 3 tickets - as it would force these managers into extending their youth academy before they feel ready.


Exactly. This is why I did not do anything on this for the moment. I am just not pleased with any ideas I had so far, to solve this issue.
Quote   Reply   Edit  
smokerteer
posted: 2019-05-07 09:51:26 (ID: 100139563) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
smokerteer wrote:

It seems to me that the only 'real' possible negative for this is if Pete can't find a way to allow managers to promote these draftees in the first few weeks to the full squad without it impacting on the 'promote to seniors' ticket. This I think would be harsh on newer managers that want to play their draftees straight away and also want to promote a player from their academy but still only have 3 tickets - as it would force these managers into extending their youth academy before they feel ready.


Exactly. This is why I did not do anything on this for the moment. I am just not pleased with any ideas I had so far, to solve this issue.


I too would be against penalising the newer teams but it is nice to know you have not ruled this out when a solution to this problem is resolved
Quote   Reply   Edit  
badgers
posted: 2019-07-02 21:34:22 (ID: 100140949)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
This is kind of out there but what if draft players sent to the YA only counted for half of a ticket when they were promoted? It could work to try to balance things out a bit.

Last edited on 2019-07-02 21:34:39 by badgers

Quote   Reply   Edit  
pete
H2TAGIT4Q

Europe   pete owns a supporter account   pete is a Knight of RedZoneAction.org

Joined: 2011-09-01/S00
Posts: 20495
Top Manager



 
posted: 2019-07-03 20:09:21 (ID: 100141003) Report Abuse
we expect an integer count here. sorry
Quote   Reply   Edit  
Captain Jack
posted: 2019-07-04 11:11:41 (ID: 100141028) Report Abuse
How about allowing 3 'free' (i.e. extra) slots for teams in their first year? After this they should have built their academy to a decent level.

Quote   Reply   Edit  
ivo17
posted: 2019-07-04 13:35:16 (ID: 100141032) Report Abuse
Yesterday I bought a 19 year old player who went straight to my YA

Behind his name I see:

Transfer to Senior Team
(no ticket needed, transfer market exception)

As I understand this it means that I can promote him to my senior team for "free"

Why would this not be possible for draftees?
Quote   Reply   Edit  
linkleo911
Rio Galaxy

Brazil

Joined: 2019-01-16/S32
Posts: 1360
Top Manager



 
posted: 2019-07-04 13:56:57 (ID: 100141033) Report Abuse
I was thinking about drafts and youth academy... And I came out with an idea: the players on the draft list could be all out of the YA of the teams of that region.

Let me draw it better: before the end of the season all teams must turn at least 3 YA players, 18 yo or more, as eligible for the draft. With this, the draft may have more than 96 players to choose and all draftees could not go back to YA again. Some adjustments will have to be done. Less tickets to promote from YA to senior team, control of the number of YA players and much more.

Please, be gentle with my idea... let's discuss it, please

Quote   Reply   Edit  
reply   Mark this thread unread
Navigation: |<   1 2  >   >|  
Main / Suggestions / Option to send drafted 19 and 20 year olds to YA