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smokerteer
posted: 2019-05-07 13:31:29 (ID: 100139564) Report Abuse
At the moment we have 8 divisions of four teams.
These teams play 16 games each over a 17 week schedule.
The 16 games are made up of:

6 games against divisional rivals
4 games against 4 teams from a different division in the same conference
4 games against 4 teams from a different division in the opposite conference
1 game against 1 team from 1 of the other 2 division within the same conference
1 game against 1 team from the other division within the same conference.

For example this season in Elite AC East (Thunder) all teams play:

6 games against 3 Elite AC East teams (2 each)
4 games against 4 teams from Elite AC North (1 each)
4 games against 4 teams from Elite NC West (1 each)
1 game against 1 team from Elite AC West
1 game against 1 team from Elite AC South.

Now, the NFL has two ways to try to even out the chances for all teams whilst trying to ensure that the best team still wins the Super Bowl.

First is the draft, worst team getting pick 1, best team getting pick 32, etc

The second way is those last two games against the games against Elite AC West and Elite AC South.

At the moment in RZA these games appear to be random, whereas in the NFL the best teams play those two single games against the best, based on the final standing from the season before.

For example just taking AC East (Thunder) Elite.

At the moment, in those two games, Styrian Bears (AC East winner) play:

Olivos Borrachos Claymore 1 Bowl Runner-up 4
Traktor Tiefe Furche Admirals 1 Bowl Runner-up 4

Landru Athletics (AC East runner-up) play:

Stockport Sabres Claymore 1 Bowl Winner 3
Havelock Vikings AC West (Admirals Elite) Runner-up 2

Juggernaut (Thunder 1 Bowl winner) play:

Bobboy Magpies Admirals 1 Bowl Winner 3
Diorite Lions AC South (Claymore Elite) Winner 1

Chesterton Cheese (Thunder 1 Bowl runner-up) play:

Bonnyrigg Bombsquad AC South (Claymore Elite) Runner-up 2
Yellowcakes AC West (Admirals Elite) Winner 1

Under the new system the games would be as follows:

Styrian Bears (AC East winner) play:

Yellowcakes AC West (Admirals Elite) Winner 1
Diorite Lions AC South (Claymore Elite) Winner 1

Landru Athletics (AC East runner-up) play:

Havelock Vikings AC West (Admirals Elite) Runner-up 2
Bonnyrigg Bombsquad AC South (Claymore Elite) Runner-up 2

Juggernaut (Thunder 1 Bowl winner) play:

Bobboy Magpies Admirals 1 Bowl Winner 3
Stockport Sabres Claymore 1 Bowl Winner 3

Chesterton Cheese (Thunder 1 Bowl runner-up) play:

Traktor Tiefe Furche Admirals 1 Bowl Runner-up 4
Olivos Borrachos Claymore 1 Bowl Runner-up 4

Obviously, this wouldn't make a huge difference, it's only two games a season but in close divisions it could be enough to a l t e r the playoff picture, or who stays up or indeed who gets relegated.
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posted: 2019-05-07 21:39:30 (ID: 100139572) Report Abuse
Hm, I do not fully get what the proposed change would be, or much more how that decision should be made when scheduling a league that was never playing in that configuration before. Remember, the NFL consists of the same 32 teams, each year. RZA Elite - and all other RZA leagues - do not.
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posted: 2019-05-08 04:23:22 (ID: 100139581)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Hm, I do not fully get what the proposed change would be, or much more how that decision should be made when scheduling a league that was never playing in that configuration before. Remember, the NFL consists of the same 32 teams, each year. RZA Elite - and all other RZA leagues - do not.


I think it is something I proposed already in the past. The divisions and 2 teams we play every season beside the teams in our division are random. It happened that we play 3 seasons in a row the same conference division for exemple.

In the NFL, it is not possible. You will play the same divisions, still beside yours, once every 3 year only. For the last two teams I just learnt it was against the best teams of previous Season. I understand the impact of relegation for league 1 and 2, yet there is something to dig there.

Upgrade the schedule to this NFL format would be a good modification imo.

Last edited on 2019-05-08 04:26:16 by Kanar

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Meitheisman
posted: 2019-05-08 12:48:24 (ID: 100139588) Report Abuse
I would like this.

It would also be nice if the rotation between divisions was more balanced.

In the last 9 Elite seasons in Fire we have played all teams in the Thunder division 8 times, once Claymore and never Admirals. For the games against the other conference Fire teams have played Galaxy 4 times, Dragons 3 times and SeaDevils twice but never Monarchs.
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MonsterT95
posted: 2019-05-10 07:34:03 (ID: 100139616) Report Abuse
smokerteer wrote:
At the moment we have 8 divisions of four teams.
These teams play 16 games each over a 17 week schedule.
The 16 games are made up of:

6 games against divisional rivals
4 games against 4 teams from a different division in the same conference
4 games against 4 teams from a different division in the opposite conference
1 game against 1 team from 1 of the other 2 division within the same conference
1 game against 1 team from the other division within the same conference.



AFAIK, it' not just one randomn team, it's the team that finished with the same rank as you in this division (that's why there where so much regular season Colts-Pats games though they were no longer playing in the same division anymore)
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smokerteer
posted: 2019-05-10 09:32:54 (ID: 100139620) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Hm, I do not fully get what the proposed change would be, or much more how that decision should be made when scheduling a league that was never playing in that configuration before. Remember, the NFL consists of the same 32 teams, each year. RZA Elite - and all other RZA leagues - do not.


Elite Division X

1st > 2nd
2nd > 3rd
3rd > 4th

X Division 1

1st > 2nd
2nd > 3rd
3rd > 4th

X Division 2

1st > 2nd
2nd > 3rd
3rd > 4th

An Elite division each season consists of 1 team that finished 1st in that division, 1 team that finished 2nd in that division, and 2 teams that finished 1st in their conferences from the league below.

Schedule ranking for Elite divisions should (IMO) be the following:

1st human team that finished 1st
2nd human team that finished 2nd
3rd human promoted team that won the bowl of the league below
4th human promoted team that lost the bowl of the league below.
5th any human team promoted due to Bot flush (ranking as below)

Schedule ranking for League X:1 divisions should be the following:

1st Relegated Elite team
2nd human team finishing 1st in that division
3rd human team finishing 2nd in that division
4th human team finishing 3rd
5th human team finishing 4th
6th human Bowl participant from League Below
7th team promoted due to 'relegation' game
8th team promoted due to Bot flush

Schedule ranking for League X:2 divisions should be the following:

1st Relegated League X:1 human teams
2nd human team finishing 1st in that division
3rd human team finishing 2nd in that division
4th human team finishing 3rd
5th human team finishing 4th
6th Bot teams

Hope that makes things clearer for you Pete, I don't know how easy that would be to implement - that's your department!
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smokerteer
posted: 2019-05-10 09:59:33 (ID: 100139621) Report Abuse
Kanar wrote:
pete wrote:
Hm, I do not fully get what the proposed change would be, or much more how that decision should be made when scheduling a league that was never playing in that configuration before. Remember, the NFL consists of the same 32 teams, each year. RZA Elite - and all other RZA leagues - do not.


I think it is something I proposed already in the past. The divisions and 2 teams we play every season beside the teams in our division are random. It happened that we play 3 seasons in a row the same conference division for exemple.

In the NFL, it is not possible. You will play the same divisions, still beside yours, once every 3 year only. For the last two teams I just learnt it was against the best teams of previous Season. I understand the impact of relegation for league 1 and 2, yet there is something to dig there.

Upgrade the schedule to this NFL format would be a good modification imo.


I agree completely, it should be a 12 season cycle. For example for AC East it should be as follows:

1 6 v AC East (twice), 4 v AC North, 4 v NC East, 1 v same rank AC South, 1 v same rank AC West
2 6 v AC East (twice), 4 v AC South, 4 v NC North, 1 v same rank AC North, 1 v same rank AC West
3 6 v AC East (twice), 4 v AC West, 4 v NC South, 1 v same rank AC North, 1 v same rank AC South
4 6 v AC East (twice), 4 v AC North, 4 v NC West, 1 v same rank AC South, 1 v same rank AC West
5 6 v AC East (twice), 4 v AC South, 4 v NC East, 1 v same rank AC North, 1 v same rank AC West
6 6 v AC East (twice), 4 v AC West, 4 v NC North, 1 v same rank AC North, 1 v same rank AC South
7 6 v AC East (twice), 4 v AC North, 4 v NC South, 1 v same rank AC South, 1 v same rank AC West
8 6 v AC East (twice), 4 v AC South, 4 v NC West, 1 v same rank AC North, 1 v same rank AC West
9 6 v AC East (twice), 4 v AC West, 4 v NC East, 1 v same rank AC North, 1 v same rank AC South
10 6 v AC East (twice), 4 v AC North, 4 v NC North, 1 v same rank AC South, 1 v same rank AC West
11 6 v AC East (twice), 4 v AC South, 4 v NC South, 1 v same rank AC North, 1 v same rank AC West
12 6 v AC East (twice), 4 v AC West, 4 v NC West, 1 v same rank AC North, 1 v same rank AC South

Sorry, I hadn't realised that the rotation wasn't already implemented

It would certainly be more interesting for teams that spend long periods in the same league and build up more inter-division bragging rights!

It should be possible before season roll-over to work out which teams your team will face in the next season, (more or less)
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smokerteer
posted: 2019-05-10 10:04:45 (ID: 100139622) Report Abuse
Meitheisman wrote:
I would like this.

It would also be nice if the rotation between divisions was more balanced.

In the last 9 Elite seasons in Fire we have played all teams in the Thunder division 8 times, once Claymore and never Admirals. For the games against the other conference Fire teams have played Galaxy 4 times, Dragons 3 times and SeaDevils twice but never Monarchs.


Thanks for pointing this out, I hadn't realised that the rotation system wasn't implemented already - please consider this to also be part of my suggestion
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Cheesehead
posted: 2019-05-27 21:12:21 (ID: 100139934) Report Abuse
I fully support this suggestion!
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posted: 2019-05-29 13:23:16 (ID: 100139962) Report Abuse
For the moment I have no idea how to put this into real without making the schedule process much more complicated than it is already. I guess this will result in a rewrite, but need more checks on it.

Thanks for the clarification. The old grumpy guy got it now
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