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PhillyEagles
posted: 2019-07-03 13:47:33 (ID: 100140975) Report Abuse
Hi guys,
I just found two players on the transfer market. Both Oliners.

I wonder why this player is rated better:

https://redzoneaction.org/football/index.php?page=yourteam&subpage=playerlist&display=player&id=100766403&teamid=3922

then this player:
https://redzoneaction.org/football/index.php?page=yourteam&subpage=playerlist&display=player&id=100765356&teamid=3922

Just looking at there stats I would have guessed that Karr is better then Sledge.

Your thoughts?

PS: Not buying any of the two - Just learning.
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angus
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posted: 2019-07-03 14:17:12 (ID: 100140976) Report Abuse
The big difference is experience. Karr is 2.5 and sledge is 3.5. From a practical sense this makes a big difference. Karr might look better because of his high TW., but he has low intel. Sledge is the opposite. For ratings, Pete sees these 2 stats as equal for OLs. Which is really better on the field is a matter of opinion. Karr has better agility but less strength. Karr I think has the edge here but the experience is really the big factor.
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PhillyEagles
posted: 2019-07-03 14:29:46 (ID: 100140978) Report Abuse
angus wrote:
For ratings, Pete sees these 2 stats as equal for OLs.


You mean Pete sees intelligence and teamwork equal for Oliners? Or a missunderstanding on my site?

Thanks!
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posted: 2019-07-03 14:37:27 (ID: 100140979) Report Abuse
Yes I believe in the rating system for OL intel and TW are rated equally as important. But be careful, on the field this may not be perfectly true. The rating system is just an approximation. It is up to the player to find what really works the best. I guess my point is: Don't look at the ratings as exact truth.
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kevinisking
posted: 2019-07-03 14:47:51 (ID: 100140984)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
I believe Int for OL is important because of the role they play vs blitzes in the passing game, although this does not show in the box score. There are past forums that go back and forth on what makes a better OL, so the RZA community will have different views.

As far as ratings, like said before, this does not mean the higher-rated player will play better. Ratings can be high due to an unbalanced training technique. (A LB with 50 tackle but 15 agility, 17 footwork, and 22 vision and 32 INT) for example.

This is why some managers believe they should win vs lower-rated teams and shocked when they lose. Or worse yet, having financial issues that force them to gut their team.

Last edited on 2019-07-03 14:48:48 by kevinisking

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posted: 2019-07-03 16:07:38 (ID: 100140991) Report Abuse
The rating system in stars does only value the trainable skills, that's why they are equal there.

But the manual does clearly state that INT and TW do matter.

So ot's not good to look only for the ratings stars.
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PhillyEagles
posted: 2019-07-04 06:08:59 (ID: 100141016) Report Abuse
My previous thinking was that intelligence does not matter to much for Oliners but it seems to make a difference. So I learned that.

And yes ratings are not everything for sure. I just was curious about those two players because I thought the lesser rated player was the better one was expecting a higher rating.
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Meitheisman
posted: 2019-07-04 08:32:35 (ID: 100141020) Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:
The rating system in stars does only value the trainable skills, that's why they are equal there.


Are you sure of this? I thought INT, TW and EXP all counted in the rating even though they're not trainable skills.
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alexshans84
posted: 2019-07-04 08:40:16 (ID: 100141022) Report Abuse
Meitheisman wrote:
jack6 wrote:
The rating system in stars does only value the trainable skills, that's why they are equal there.


Are you sure of this? I thought INT, TW and EXP all counted in the rating even though they're not trainable skills.


I doubt that too. From the manual:
"Player rating
The player rating is another tool to help you organize your roster. Each rating is a consideration of how the player would perform at a given position. A rating is calculated as an average value of the important skills on a per position basis, with experience added to better reflect their actual performance. The best possible rating is 5*. Please note that a player's Physical Condition (PC) also has a bearing upon the player rating."
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hollyhh2000
posted: 2019-07-04 09:14:54 (ID: 100141024) Report Abuse
Int definitely has an impact on the ratings of various positions including OL and (imo surprisingly) DL

If you scout a couple of All Stars and compare them to other highly skilled players, you can learn a lot about the ratings.

however, we do not know if the difference in the rating make a difference on the field.
I doubt that int has as much impact on the field as on the ratings but it is just impossible to prove that from stats, so its just a guess.
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