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PJRAVENS
posted: 2019-09-16 21:08:25 (ID: 100143085) Report Abuse
Mücke wrote:
Yago Benitez, K, first round pick ( ) back in S27 with Exp 3*

8 Seasons,
295 Games,
5639 plays later,

a player who just finished his 2.000th PAT,
honored with 32 MVP Awards (1782 MVP points),


gained ... *drum-roll* ... 1* of experience




Thanks for sharing!
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Mücke
posted: 2019-09-17 18:26:08 (ID: 100143101)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
as per manual, the extra EXP "boost" for K/P is only activ, if K/P doesnt have more than X plays per game.

PJ, we shouldnt have lined them up in bot games, where Kicker are supposed to have more plays than the entire D-Line combined

Last edited on 2019-09-17 18:29:22 by Mücke

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Drogon
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posted: 2019-11-06 02:10:15 (ID: 100144522) Report Abuse
PJRAVENS wrote:
I have the same Punter and Kicker starting from S31
Pucci Esposito P games 176 plays 657
Tim Majors K games 176 plays 3157
After 5 seasons both have gained only 0.5 star of experience...

would anyone share his ... experience () ?



2018-05-03 S29-ACA,
Kévin Guillet, 18yo, 1 EXP

2018-10-18 S31-Promo.Senior
Kévin Guillet (K), 20yo, 2 EXP

2019-11-03 S36, 2576 Plays, 2 EXP
2019-11-04 S36, 2589 Plays, 2,5 EXP

Kévin Guillet (K) playing K & P in S34, S35 and S36

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PJRAVENS
posted: 2019-11-06 14:05:17 (ID: 100144535)  Edits found: 3 Report Abuse
Drogon wrote:
2018-05-03 S29-ACA,
Kévin Guillet, 18yo, 1 EXP

2018-10-18 S31-Promo.Senior
Kévin Guillet (K), 20yo, 2 EXP

2019-11-03 S36, 2576 Plays, 2 EXP
2019-11-04 S36, 2589 Plays, 2,5 EXP

Kévin Guillet (K) playing K & P in S34, S35 and S36



Thanks for sharing

Resuming

Tim Majors K 176 games 3157 plays from EXP 3* +0.5*
Calogero Pilotto K 142 games 2578 plays from EXP 2* +0.5*
Yago Benitez K 295 Games, 5639 plays from EXP 3* +1*
Ty McCarthy K 291 games, 5361 plays from EXP 2.5* +1.5*
Kévin Guillet K 143 games 2602 plays from EXP 2* +0.5*

All the K players have an avg of more or less 18 plays per game.

From the manual
Kicker and Punter are eligible to receive more experience per play.
But there are a few conditions in place to allow the player to take advantage of this..."boost":

1) Your player in question has to be Kicker or Punter based on his natural position, and the player has to play on the field as Kicker or Punter.

On top he receives the boost only if
1) he has less than X plays as Kicker or Punter
I guess this means that the "boost" happens only in the begin of his K career...

2) he has not too many ("Y") plays within Offense or Defense.

I guess this means that if before to swith the player to K you had played him in another position in order to let him gain experience quickly, when you switch him to K you will not benefit on top of the "boost"

Here the question is... how much is the boost in term of EXP *?

I bought my K so I do not know the starting value of his experience when he born.
Talking about
Kévin Guillet K 143 games 2602 plays from EXP 2* +0.5*
He was promoted to senior team with EXP 2*
He seems to play K/P from the start, he has now 2602 plays
punt 156 + kick 1272 + pat 963 + fg 192 = 2583 plays
2602 - 2583 = 19 unknown plays.
He gained EXP +0.5* after about 2500 plays as for example an OL that can play 80 plays per game instead of 18...
where is the boost?

Last edited on 2019-11-06 14:11:37 by PJRAVENS

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Drogon
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posted: 2019-11-06 19:29:25 (ID: 100144544) Report Abuse
PJRAVENS wrote:
Drogon wrote:
2018-05-03 S29-ACA,
Kévin Guillet, 18yo, 1 EXP

2018-10-18 S31-Promo.Senior
Kévin Guillet (K), 20yo, 2 EXP

2019-11-03 S36, 2576 Plays, 2 EXP
2019-11-04 S36, 2589 Plays, 2,5 EXP

Kévin Guillet (K) playing K & P in S34, S35 and S36


Thanks for sharing

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Kévin Guillet K 143 games 2602 plays from EXP 2* +0.5*
(...)
He seems to play K/P from the start (...)

punt 156 + kick 1272 + pat 963 + fg 192 = 2583 plays
2602 - 2583 = 19 unknown plays.


No.

Kévin Guillet K 142 games 2589 plays from EXP 2* +0.5*

Kévin Guillet has been playing K and P since S34 (not "from the start")


PJRAVENS wrote:
He gained EXP +0.5* after about 2500 plays as for example an OL that can play 80 plays per game instead of 18...
where is the boost?


+/-2500 plays seems to be correct.
Instead of "where's the boost" we should ask "where's the threshold".

posted: 2019-08-10 15:49:13 (ID: 100141956)
PJRAVENS wrote:
I read more than one time in the forum more or less 2500 plays per half star. All the plays in offense or ST / defense or ST.
If you mixup offense and defenseve plays there is a sort of penalty.

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PJRAVENS
posted: 2019-11-06 20:21:20 (ID: 100144545)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
Thank you for recalling to my mind what I wrote in the past.
I remember perfectly.

Maybe we are not talking about the same Kévin Guillet ?
From your player statistics

Career stats by Season (Regular season league games only)
S 32 games 13
Plays: 135
FGs (Attempts/Good/Missed/Yards/Lng/Avg): 24/20/4/616/40/30.8
PAT (#/Good/Missed): 40/39/1
S 33 Games: 16
Plays: 141
FGs (Attempts/Good/Missed/Yards/Lng/Avg): 11/10/1/338/39/33.8
PAT (#/Good/Missed): 52/52/0

I cannot see any play despite 19 not related to the role of K/P in official games of course...

he has now 2602 plays
punt 156 + kick 1272 + pat 963 + fg 192 = 2583 plays
2602 - 2583 = 19 unknown plays.

Do you mean that in S32 and S33 he played as K/P but out of position?

My point is : If a player can play only an avg of 18 plays per game why he gains 0.5* of experience every about 2500 plays like for example an OL or a DL or a QB that can play an avg of 80 plays per game?
In the manual is mentioned a boost, that I cannot see for Kévin Guillet ...

Last edited on 2019-11-06 20:43:58 by PJRAVENS

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posted: 2019-11-06 20:43:43 (ID: 100144546)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
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Last edited on 2019-11-06 21:18:36 by Drogon

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posted: 2019-11-06 21:23:01 (ID: 100144547)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
Drogon wrote:
PJRAVENS wrote:
Drogon wrote:
2018-05-03 S29-ACA,
Kévin Guillet, 18yo, 1 EXP

2018-10-18 S31-Promo.Senior
Kévin Guillet (K), 20yo, 2 EXP

2019-11-03 S36, 2576 Plays, 2 EXP
2019-11-04 S36, 2589 Plays, 2,5 EXP

Kévin Guillet (K) playing K & P in S34, S35 and S36


Thanks for sharing

Resuming

Kévin Guillet K 143 games 2602 plays from EXP 2* +0.5*
(...)
He seems to play K/P from the start (...)

punt 156 + kick 1272 + pat 963 + fg 192 = 2583 plays
2602 - 2583 = 19 unknown plays.


No.

Kévin Guillet K 142 games 2589 plays from EXP 2* +0.5*



PJRAVENS wrote:
In the manual is mentioned a boost, that I cannot see for Kévin Guillet ...

Right and that's ok for me since there isn't any boost.
The "boost" refers to "There is a special experience calculation in place", "Kicker and Punter are eligible to receive more experience per play.".
Which was new for K and P, i.e. more than what they used to receive.


PJRAVENS wrote:
he has now 2602 plays
punt 156 + kick 1272 + pat 963 + fg 192 = 2583 plays
2602 - 2583 = 19 unknown plays.
Do you mean that in S32 and S33 he played as K/P but out of position?


2602-2589= 13

2019-11-05 League French Fonctionnaires @ BSoD
Kévin Guillet 13 plays, 00 punts, 3 FG, 7KO, 3 PAT

Last edited on 2019-11-06 21:23:59 by Drogon

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posted: 2019-11-06 22:11:04 (ID: 100144548)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
S32 plays 562
S33 plays 514
S34 plays 446
S35 plays 621
S36 plays 449
Total : 2592 (as K & P)


S33 plays 6 as D
S33 plays 1 as ST
S34 - -
S35 plays 2 as ST
S36 plays 1 as ST
Total : 10

2592 + 10 = 2602

PJRAVENS wrote:
Do you mean that in S32 and S33 he played as K/P but out of position?

Normally, my players don't play out of position.
I can't remember but my K might have played as DL or something else during the Free Position change or a sub (injuries or roster)

Last edited on 2019-11-06 22:27:55 by Drogon

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Meitheisman
posted: 2019-11-07 03:18:03 (ID: 100144551) Report Abuse
Drogon wrote:
PJRAVENS wrote:
I have the same Punter and Kicker starting from S31
Pucci Esposito P games 176 plays 657
Tim Majors K games 176 plays 3157
After 5 seasons both have gained only 0.5 star of experience...

would anyone share his ... experience () ?



2018-05-03 S29-ACA,
Kévin Guillet, 18yo, 1 EXP

2018-10-18 S31-Promo.Senior
Kévin Guillet (K), 20yo, 2 EXP

2019-11-03 S36, 2576 Plays, 2 EXP
2019-11-04 S36, 2589 Plays, 2,5 EXP

Kévin Guillet (K) playing K & P in S34, S35 and S36



The problem here is that you don't know exactly when he started showing 2*EXP so you can't know the exact number of plays needed.

Now, you know that at 2,589 he turned 2.5*EXP so we'll have to wait until the next u p d a t e to know how many plays it took to get to 3*EXP.

I have the same issue with my K which is why I have not posted in this thread yet. He had 3.5* when I bought him so I don't know exactly when he got to 3.5*, he got to 4* after 857 plays + 26 friendlies. I will come back and u p d a t e the community once he reaches 4.5* as I'll have the exact numbers for this gain of 0.5*.

For what it's worth for other positions players usually gain an extra 0.5* between 2,500 and 4,000 plays. Some players seem to gain experience slower than others, at least that's what I'm seeing with my players.

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