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wsfjlt
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posted: 2019-10-01 11:27:07 (ID: 100143750) Report Abuse |
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my 2 or 3 cents
The lopsided penalty should be a little more through out the first 3 quarters Then in the 4th quarter with less than 7 minutes to play, lightened upas teams should be adjusting their plays to the situation winning and up by 2 scores you are going to be running the ball same or different formations make no difference, yes a small penalty as the defense would be expecting a run in these situations if a team is behind by more than one score, the natural thing to do is pass yes the defense would be expecting pass, so yes a small penalty for it but passing here is necessary. So in essence what I am saying is increase the penalty during the stage of the game where teams are feeling each other out with a diverse or should be diverse game plan and lesson the penalty at the end of the game where it is obvious that a team should be using lopsided tactics, because of the score. I would also like to see more running backs break it for longer runs, they don't need to run all the way for touchdowns, but it seems that the longest run they make is about 13 yards. There should be some longer runs thrown in here and there, especially if you have decent backs and are up against the wrong defenses for the run. |
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PJRAVENS
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posted: 2019-10-01 11:55:14 (ID: 100143753) Edits found: 4 Report Abuse |
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11:51 1 and 10 to go on own 45, Valentin Dietrich (OC) snaps the ball to Hans-Hinrich Sommer (QB), Harry Franke (HB/L) gets the ball, this seems to be a run over the left end, there is no Defense Line after the block, there is no SS who could tackle him, Harry Franke (HB/L) tackled by Rémi Noel (CB/R), forward progress: 19 yards, New first down (Pro set vs. 3-4-4) more
against my defense…. did anyone do better? Last edited on 2019-10-01 11:56:41 by PJRAVENS |
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Jiujitsutou
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posted: 2019-10-01 18:42:59 (ID: 100143779) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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Well the Reason (IMO) for less middle /very long runs in RZA is that Corner actually make tackles (alot of NFL Corner usually wouldnt want to try a solo Tackle vs Henry,Elliot McCaffrey etc.), and also Receiver donot Block down field as far as i have seen , so they are free to make these tackles in the first place.
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Mücke
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posted: 2019-10-02 20:25:49 (ID: 100143808) Report Abuse |
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Imagine a 60.4% passing-offense vs. a 80.6% passing-defense.
Imagine further, this 60.4 passing-offense throws an entire half from same formation on 1st and from another formation on 2nd downs, and the result would look like: 24/35 completions (68%) for 212 yards with a drive chart (1 half) as of: FIELD GOAL FIELD GOAL FIELD GOAL punt punt TOUCH DOWN I would understand why people get the impression, the penalty isnt as crisp as advertised. btw, getting a couple of seasons of data doesnt mean it takes a cpl of seasons to get the data. Once you found a "suspicious" playbook, just follow its tracks. |
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| posted: 2019-10-02 21:45:00 (ID: 100143811) Report Abuse | |
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This is a really fine proof that you cannot answer such questions witout statistics, big numbers, and by looking into details at the same time. I mean, in each defense there are more or less skilled players. So, how was the pass distribution amongst these involved players and which of them has which share of defensive misses? How does it distribute the misses over the course of these 4 quarters? In this 60% offense, how much share has the QB, and each of the involved receivers? Did the offense win the line battle? I guess you will have much fun crunching numbers, and thinking about how to improve your overall game, your way of reacting on offense action on field, in improving details and all the other things.
However, the question above cannot be answered with a single post, or without checking details. But doing this is your damn job.  |
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noodle
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posted: 2019-10-03 13:02:00 (ID: 100143827) Report Abuse |
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I give up with those managers who play 75% the same formation. once i see it has happened i don't interact or play friendlies with them as i consider it to be quite immoral for then to continue doing this, especially if they know the game well.
In my head i liken it to tax avoidance, not illegal like tax evasion is but it is very questionable and gets a lot of criticism. Pete is correct that we cant only gauge things on stats of one game as an example, but skills also come into play. Presumably higher skills means better players, and lower skills worse players. That being said, these players represent humans and humans can have good or bad days, but overall a good player should play well more often than not and more often than a worse player. |
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| posted: 2019-10-03 13:16:09 (ID: 100143829) Report Abuse | |
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Now let's talk about penalties for the D that is always blitzing.
Also, let's talk about penalties for the D that is playing the same d-formation. |
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noodle
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posted: 2019-10-03 13:18:39 (ID: 100143830) Report Abuse |
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Drogon wrote:
Now let's talk about penalties for the D that is always blitzing. Also, let's talk about penalties for the D that is playing the same d-formation. Totally agree. Imagine an NFL team blitzing all-out EVERY single down lol. |
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PJRAVENS
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posted: 2019-10-03 13:52:33 (ID: 100143831) Edits found: 4 Report Abuse |
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Interesting ...
Defense have already to guess if offense will pass or rush and should lineup accordingly. I do no think there is in RZA a defense on paper good against both play types if the defense fails to lineup there is already a "penalty" Ok there are not audibles in RZA... It is true that defense will automatically adapt, learning if the offense will play the same type of formaton and play more times in a row... But blitzing against a rushing play is ineffective So if you set for example SG 4 WR vs pass 3-3-4 vs run 4-4-3 blitz LB 75% prefer pass, when the offense starts to run your lineup will be 4-4-3 blitz LB 75% that means DLs not properly lined up an 1 LB burnt and this is a "penalty" Do not blitz against a passing play is an huge advantage for the offense, and so a "panalty" for the defense. would you mind share a little more of your thought.... Last edited on 2019-10-03 13:56:31 by PJRAVENS |
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| posted: 2019-10-03 14:11:17 (ID: 100143833) Report Abuse | |
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I agree with PJ. There is already a "penalty" on blitzing. I do not see the point of having an extra penalty for this.
PJRAVENS wrote:
Interesting ... Defense have already to guess if offense will pass or rush and should lineup accordingly. I do no think there is in RZA a defense on paper good against both play types if the defense fails to lineup there is already a "penalty" Ok there are not audibles in RZA... It is true that defense will automatically adapt, learning if the offense will play the same type of formaton and play more times in a row... But blitzing against a rushing play is ineffective So if you set for example SG 4 WR vs pass 3-3-4 vs run 4-4-3 blitz LB 75% prefer pass, when the offense starts to run your lineup will be 4-4-3 blitz LB 75% that means DLs not properly lined up an 1 LB burnt and this is a "penalty" Do not blitz against a passing play is an huge advantage for the offense, and so a "panalty" for the defense. would you mind share a little more of your thought.... |
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