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Amhaja
posted: 2020-12-08 23:13:31 (ID: 100155119) Report Abuse
I can see how many catches my wrs make, what their average is etc, but nowhere to show me what their actual catch completion rate is:

Big difference between I guy who makes 5 catches and 50 yards off 6 targets compared to one who was targeted ten times.


Also - is there a way to game view after the event without seeing the result before hand?
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Daghimar
posted: 2020-12-09 11:14:17 (ID: 100155137) Report Abuse
Amhaja wrote:

Also - is there a way to game view after the event without seeing the result before hand?


I support this, it loses some joy knowing the result before hand...
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PJRAVENS
posted: 2020-12-09 11:37:29 (ID: 100155138) Report Abuse
On the top of the page you can see "Hide Results"
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kevinisking
posted: 2020-12-09 14:35:23 (ID: 100155149) Report Abuse
Daghimar wrote:
Amhaja wrote:

Also - is there a way to game view after the event without seeing the result before hand?


I support this, it loses some joy knowing the result before hand...


Check the settings also. You can mark this to always hide the results.
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Daghimar
posted: 2020-12-09 15:56:48 (ID: 100155150) Report Abuse
PJRAVENS wrote:
On the top of the page you can see "Hide Results"


That only works for supporters...
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Amhaja
posted: 2020-12-09 21:15:03 (ID: 100155170) Report Abuse
Great thanks guys. I think im a supporter so I'll try that
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posted: 2020-12-12 16:36:54 (ID: 100155257)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
Amhaja wrote:
I can see how many catches my wrs make, what their average is etc, but nowhere to show me what their actual catch completion rate is:

Big difference between I guy who makes 5 catches and 50 yards off 6 targets compared to one who was targeted ten times.



The closest I could find to that is you add up a WR drops (offense stats page)to his receptions to figure out his completion percentage. Without counting each individual overthrow , it'll give you a general idea.

Last edited on 2020-12-12 16:40:09 by skeetz

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RonaldVennegoor
posted: 2020-12-17 15:30:48 (ID: 100155399) Report Abuse
That raises another question that needs clarifying. What is recorded on the Team Stats page. To investigate I looked at one game and investigate the game log and compare it with game stats. I randomly picked a play off game from last season in Dragons 1.

I then used Cheesehead's RZA Game Analyser (really, what a great person this Cheesehead must be! ) and exported game data into Excel


Source: https://i.imgur.com/aCDntFs.png


As you can see we have three more completed passing attempts more than are reported in the game stats (46 vs 43). We have one more drop (9 vs 8).
We have one less overthrown passes (7 vs 6).

I will go through each discrepancy below...

Extra passes - BUG ANALYSER
Three receivers had one more completed catch as was shown in the logs. However upon investigation I found a bug in the Analyser where a play with sack is reported as a catch (the receiver is mentioned at being targeted however a sack happens - interestingly enough this does show that QBs make up their mind and then try to execute). So that one is on me, or well, uhm, on that Cheesehead guy really

Extra drop
Upon investigation I noticed that a pass to a HB is not reported in the game stats so that explains the extra drop. I need further investigation to see if none of the passes to HBs are reported in game stats.

One missing overthrown pass
When I look through the game log I can only identify 6 overthrown passes. I cannot identify a 7th pass that does seem to be present in game stats. This is by deduction only, as we can only assume that any passes that are not caught or dropped, are overthrown passes. Using this logic there should be 7 passes overthrown (58 passes - 43 complete - 8 drops = 7 overthrown passes)

Stats per wide receiver with addition of proven overthrown passes (from the game log)

Source: https://i.imgur.com/2gxpxlp.png


So we are left with this final table of stats for passing in this. I've added a TrueStat (tm) column that shows the real stats based on evidence that can be found in the game logs.


Source: https://i.imgur.com/fbkqTXT.png


An interesting investigation that might warrant a follow up investigation of more games to see if there are other wrinkles to be find in the reported stats.

And to answer the original question, using Game Analyser you can get a true completion figure for your WRs. As game stats do not record overthrown passes and not per wide receiver, game log will not give you a complete picture (as in NFL overthown passes are counted against WRs as not caught passes).
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Cattriade
posted: 2020-12-17 19:55:54 (ID: 100155406) Report Abuse
You don't perchance happen to know if this Cheasehead guy might have fixed the bug in that great tool?
What exactly was the bug anyway? Are all sacks recorded as catches or just "special sacks"?
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RonaldVennegoor
posted: 2020-12-18 17:08:31 (ID: 100155434) Report Abuse
I've not done any work in it for years. I expect all sacks to be counted as competed passes. Reason I've not Cathy it before is that sacks are a relatively rare play when considering all plays. Should be easy to fix it I suspect. I do wonder if after all this time I need to sort of reverse engineer the whole thing before I can make changes to it again
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