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Solana_Steve
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posted: 2021-01-08 02:18:29 (ID: 100156037) Report Abuse
Just curious...I looked on my HR-Settings page and it has:

Current weekly player wages: 5,901,897

Estimated weekly player wages after switching off the HR-Department: 8,677,465

That means HR mode is saving me ~32%.

Wondering if I'm doing better or worse than others.


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Kanar
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posted: 2021-01-08 06:10:18 (ID: 100156039) Report Abuse
I believe this data is very accurate at the beginning of the season as the disabled HR figure may consider the player salary at its exact skill level, similarly to when you buy a player on the TM. However without the HR department, the player salary remains the same all year from the rollover to the next one.

In my case I have a 4 millions gap (roughly 40% then). But it is mostly due to the fact I have 6 players retiring or leaving the team at the end of the season and I pushed them to their skill cap which would cost big money if I had to keep them.

Still in my case, the gap seems too big with what I roughly expect. It is not impossible the given 10 millions is a projection based on the expected skill development. However I have many players that I capped the skill level which would keep the same salary until their final year. Maybe Pete can clarify,
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PJRAVENS
posted: 2021-01-08 09:01:15 (ID: 100156041)  Edits found: 5 Report Abuse
I think the purpose of this indicator is helping to decide if deactivate HR Dep or not.
It is not an indicator about HR Dept efficiency.
Keeping apart franchise contracts (max five) , we know that at the end of the season with a "this and another season" or "this and 2 seasons" contracts we can save more or less 14% / 16% of the extimate wage.
The whole value (mine is around 30%) is a mixed up result.
For example it depends of how many contracts are about expiring and how many skill points the players have gained.
Suppose I have just renewed a player contract for the next two seasons and I am training him supposing after two seasons his extimate wage is +20% higher.
If I check now my efficiency is more or less 15% (what I suppose to save with a two seasons contract) , if I check after a season +25%, if I check when I have to renew his contract after two seasons my efficiency would be +35%
If I do the same with a already skills capped player my efficiency is always +15%

Basically I have the same Kanar opinion

Last edited on 2021-01-08 09:10:33 by PJRAVENS

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posted: 2021-01-08 10:08:10 (ID: 100156042) Report Abuse
Sure the difference is only a value right now.
HR-Contracts are fixed values over the season, the estimated wage values can only be the values of the playes they would have without HR-department switched on if they would demand money now, not the value they had have at season rollover (which would be the correct value for the past) of last season or upcoming rollover in the future (which would be the correct value for upcoming season).

That also means, that it calculates the retiring players more or less wrong, as said before. And it also means the difference is an indicator about you training style.
My savings are compared to mentioned numbers only 27%. The reason for that is likely I do right now artificially cap my players quite early so many players on my roster don't grow on their wage much, if at all, on the main skills and I do have an advantage of roughly 14% on those guys. The rest of the savings do come from franchise players and those players on their way to that artificial cap.
Another franchise does eventaully always progress until the natual cap therefore less players don't grow anymore and the savings % are higher.

The only thing I accually do with this number is, to ignore it, since the only things to consider are:
HR on or off? On means I save money, regardless how many.
Training of main skills up to how much? If the 2 highest skills rise, the wage will follow soon. There is not much I can do that handling the roster the best way possible under such conditions.
Who gets the franchise contract? The most savings are those who still grow and will make a big jump until contract end regarding wages and at best I max out on that diff and as long as possible.
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posted: 2021-01-08 11:44:03 (ID: 100156049) Report Abuse
I evaluate a four seasons franchise contract only for those who still grow and will make a big jump of extimate wage inside the first two seasons.

In the first two seasons you overpay becasuse the demand is 1.x of the current extimated wage in the franchise, compared to a "this and two seasons contract" at 0.86 and you will recover in the following two seasons.

never used a three seasons franchise
am I missing something?
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posted: 2021-01-08 12:07:07 (ID: 100156051) Report Abuse
No, I don't think so.
I also never take 3 seasons franchise contracts.
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PJRAVENS
posted: 2021-01-08 12:15:44 (ID: 100156052) Report Abuse
Thanks
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JonnyP
posted: 2021-01-08 14:03:07 (ID: 100156057)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
Similar in % terms:
Current weekly player wages: 5,440,932
Estimated weekly player wages after switching off the HR-Department: 7,516,479

I only have 1 retiree, so only 1 player pushed beyond usual training levels.

Last edited on 2021-01-08 14:04:21 by JonnyP

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