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| posted: 2019-10-24 02:49:11 (ID: 100144284) Report Abuse | |
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BigHurt35Cards wrote:
What would you guys do with this guy? Age 19 Talent ** Intelligence 48.8 Teamwork 50 Strength 40.6 Red Speed 49.5 Red Agility 29.2 Special traits Pass Blocker Depends on my needs but I would probably ignore the trait and Free Safety OR Wide receiver. Maybe even HB (although I like em stronger).. |
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posted: 2020-05-06 02:54:49 (ID: 100148890) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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16yo YA:
Strength will red cap at 41. 26.5 Int, 35 Teamwork. Stone Wall + Pass Blocker traits. Way ahead of the curve on XP at 2*. Worth keeping him at 90% strength for the rest of his YA career? Anyone done the math out on how much strength post cap that would end up around? Roughly 80 or so training updates, not sure if that would get him to OL territory, somewhat doubtful. But the XP being ahead of the curve, he could probably graduate 3.5-4* and have plenty of time to skill up football skills after addressing the unfortunate low cap. 
*edit* - probably worth finding his speed cap first, and if it caps high, might make more sense as a FB, and ignore the Stone Wall? Last edited on 2020-05-06 02:56:36 by Gambler75 |
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| posted: 2020-05-06 07:23:57 (ID: 100148894) Report Abuse | |
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Gambler75 wrote:
16yo YA: Strength will red cap at 41. 26.5 Int, 35 Teamwork. Stone Wall + Pass Blocker traits. Way ahead of the curve on XP at 2*. Worth keeping him at 90% strength for the rest of his YA career? Anyone done the math out on how much strength post cap that would end up around? Roughly 80 or so training updates, not sure if that would get him to OL territory, somewhat doubtful. But the XP being ahead of the curve, he could probably graduate 3.5-4* and have plenty of time to skill up football skills after addressing the unfortunate low cap.
*edit* - probably worth finding his speed cap first, and if it caps high, might make more sense as a FB, and ignore the Stone Wall? With INT 26.5 I would not put him into the OL, but that's up to you. If he red caps at 41 it's waste of training to push him over the red cap until he reaches 45+. If I remember right you get almost nothing every few trainings. I would (if even worth the try) try to find his SPE cap and if that's high enough, say 45+, try to make a WR (so no trait benefit), a TE or a FB out of him. |
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PJRAVENS
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posted: 2020-05-06 07:57:06 (ID: 100148897) Report Abuse |
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I tried some time ago for 10 training session (5 RZA weeks) to rise a player's speed above the red cap.
The result was something like 1/20 * regular training points. 10 times are definitely too low in order to make a reverse engineering and obtain a correct formula. However if it worked like this (hoping the trand were linear) according to the manual you would have (33+TW+(CP-40))/2/100*90%/20 Player TW= 35 Your best AC CP = 79 4 YA seasons = 24*4 = 96 something like 2.3 points that means STR 43.3 Training speed to the cap and see if he could be a TE (or a low STR FB) seems to me the best option too. |
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posted: 2020-05-13 16:19:52 (ID: 100149079) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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Well, I also have a double traited NT in my YA I've been experimenting on this with (pushing Str red cap). Crunching out the numbers, uncapped he'd be getting 0.6897 per u p d a t e on average. So far, he's been getting 0.1 every other update.
So with the YA bonus, I'm getting roughly 1/13.8 training, not 1/20, but will need a larger sample size to know if he's just rolling really well (8 updates so far). Not sure if the guy you were pushing was on the main team, or if the upgraded youth academy accounts for the disparity? Also getting 21% extra strength training from Wind Tunnel / Weight Room combo. His was a much smaller gap to cover though, 46 cap, got him to 45.9, and then rolled to 47.0 ... He's at 47.4 now, so assuming the current rate keeps up, he should hit 50 strength with about a half season left to train skills. Probably will pull him off around 49 though, so he isn't *quite* so far behind on skills. Whittle capped at 42.2 with a nice rollover training, so subbing in his lower teamwork, I get 45.85 final strength if he stayed on Strength until graduating ... So doesn't change the answer on Whittle, he's still out of reach of OL territory and a FB/TE prospect, so off to the TM he goes. But the other experiment actually has me wondering if I should be looking at post cap training more of the YA potentially. Will u p d a t e when I've got a much larger sample from the NT.  Last edited on 2020-05-13 16:23:42 by Gambler75 |
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posted: 2020-05-13 19:29:41 (ID: 100149084) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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Thanks for sharing.
The guy I was pushing was on the main team. It was SPE for me so +10% from Wind Tunnel facility. I am trying now with one in the YA with STR=44.8, I'll give you a feedback in a couple of weeks. Last edited on 2020-05-13 19:30:01 by PJRAVENS |
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Gambler75
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posted: 2020-06-03 06:04:54 (ID: 100149632) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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He continued to stay right at the +0.1 every other training pace, until tonight. I'm updating now, bc I just bit the bullet and switched to the premium YA, so I'm thinking he (hopefully) will slightly eclipse that moving forward, and he did have his first back to back +0.1 tonight. Granted that very well could be rounding, if the pace was somewhere above +0.05 per train.
I might be over valuing physicals, but in a case like this with a nice double-traited NT, who was close to my cut off for minimum at a position, seems like it's plenty viable. Something like a TE with a ton of contributing stats to fill, I don't think I'd attempt it. He should be somewhere around 49.5 by season's end, and then I'll have to decide if he gets pushed to 50 and throw YA points at him, or leave it there and get a full season of skill training in. Last edited on 2020-06-03 06:16:43 by Gambler75 |
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posted: 2020-06-12 13:27:30 (ID: 100149920) Report Abuse |
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Hi guys,
As a new team with brand new players, one of them is not rubbish at all. : 21yo, 45/50 physicals plus a trait that fits well with these, High TMWK max skill circa 20 He's not much trained so he won't go for million$ on the TM, but I won't buy expensive coach soon neither. What to do with this guy ? |
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posted: 2020-06-12 13:36:48 (ID: 100149921) Report Abuse |
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Auers wrote:
Hi guys, As a new team with brand new players, one of them is not rubbish at all. : 21yo, 45/50 physicals plus a trait that fits well with these, High TMWK max skill circa 20 He's not much trained so he won't go for million$ on the TM, but I won't buy expensive coach soon neither. What to do with this guy ? Sell him! You have some pretty tough teams in your division. All hope is lost. Don't waste the poor man's career!!  |
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| posted: 2020-06-14 05:04:25 (ID: 100149962) Report Abuse | |
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What is is INT? Skills are low but on a 4 skills position (including AGI), he may develop in your team and become a decent veteran starter during your player for the YA gets trained.
I still have a couple of guys from my initial roster that are now solid back-ups. Also his skills are very low. You won’t get much on the TM and his salary costs nothing. With this kind of physicals and this TM, if INT is good you may get a couple of millions when he is in his 30/35 skills range. |
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