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laura
posted: 2022-08-26 23:24:58 (ID: 100168750) Report Abuse
I tried to follow big talk in rookie area...
So, is it better to train 2 skills to max. and rise salary (exp. is also doubt) or train 4 skills over time?
If somebody want to see superbowl?
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jpnwrt
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posted: 2022-08-27 06:31:24 (ID: 100168755)  Edits found: 3 Report Abuse
Basically... you can pick the answer you prefer, and you'll find the opinion to support it. If you don't like to walk the thin line with your checkbook(*) in one hand and the calculator(**) in the other, you ought to pick the cheaper path (i.e. more than 2 skills). Also, if you believe Pete wants you to succede, you gotta follow the path 2+.
Then again, you know, Pete's German and you know from school what they did. So... hard to decide


ps. I hope it's obvious the only reason you don't see an icon with "Irony" written all over a BIG red board, like the "Sarcasm" smiley you can paste in your text, a is that there is no "Irony" smiley on the list, and it was definitely meant as an irony not a sarcasm. Especially about Germans :-) (If anyone has any doubts, my first love was a girl from Berlin, so there ;-) ).
ps2. jpnwrt - you know _you_ are walking the thin red line yourself... What if Pete doesn't have a sense of humour? Or his sense of humour is far from yours?


(*/**) checkbook, calculator - objects used in ancient times but nowadays long forgotten, helpful in not going bankrupt

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laura
posted: 2022-08-27 12:41:29 (ID: 100168762) Report Abuse


Thanks!
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posted: 2022-08-27 13:45:53 (ID: 100168763) Report Abuse
laura wrote:
I tried to follow big talk in rookie area...
So, is it better to train 2 skills to max. and rise salary (exp. is also doubt) or train 4 skills over time?
If somebody want to see superbowl?

The salary will rise, regardless how many skills you train to the max, if you train 2 or more skills.
Example: You train your QB to 45 in VIS and PASS; the salary is quite high. At that point you could train CAR or POS or whatever zu 45 also, the salary will not rise further, if you keep EXP gain out of calculation.
If you train him to 40 in VIS and PAS, he will cost less, but will perform also less.

That the thing with wages.

The talk was about other, maybe not so obvious skills the player NEEDS or it HELPS or the are USELESS.

I think Peter made it clear that USELESS is not the case, but NEEDED is also not the case.

So back to the example, is VIS and PASS NEEDED, HELPS or USELESS? Likely NEEDED. Is CAR NEEDED, HELPS or USELESS? Liikely HELPS, what how much is unknown. Is PUN i this case USELESS, yes, I think so. But you could train your QB in VIS, PAS and AGI and he will perform likely fine, according to Peter, the QB bis POS, CAR and maybe FOO or TAC will likely lift the potential of his performance higher. How MUCH higher is open.

The talk was about, whether it's worth to do such training or not. From my point of view it's up to the manager, but at some point you don't know where to put all the training in anyway, so why not THOSE skills?
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laura
posted: 2022-08-27 14:33:26 (ID: 100168764) Report Abuse
Basically if we speak about superbowl that is almost the same.
You need anyhow time to assemble players (find them on the market or wait to grow from YA).
In case with 2 skills they will perform better faster but not enough for superbowl.
In case with 4 skills they will reach max. performance latter.
To came to bowl level same time will be consumed.
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posted: 2022-08-27 17:33:50 (ID: 100168767) Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:
laura wrote:
I tried to follow big talk in rookie area...
So, is it better to train 2 skills to max. and rise salary (exp. is also doubt) or train 4 skills over time?
If somebody want to see superbowl?

The talk was about other, maybe not so obvious skills the player NEEDS or it HELPS or the are USELESS.


I will once again write same lines as I wrote before.

When a new manager comes to the game one of first things is "look at jacks guide".
Even I after so many seasons take a look at your guide if I want to check something.

After new knowlegde you should re-write part of A, B and C skills.

For a lot of positions there are less A skills then it guide says right now.

There should also be different valuation of B skills since B is just behind A but since players can play great without B skills they are not B, more likely H skills (so C skills should be R skills).

We don't know how skills that are not A work and I still think that it is enough just to have those couple of A skills and still have hack of a season. And while having hack of a season having enough time to build up other H or R skills.
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posted: 2022-08-27 17:35:24 (ID: 100168768) Report Abuse
laura wrote:
Basically if we speak about superbowl that is almost the same.
You need anyhow time to assemble players (find them on the market or wait to grow from YA).
In case with 2 skills they will perform better faster but not enough for superbowl.
In case with 4 skills they will reach max. performance latter.
To came to bowl level same time will be consumed.


This is the right answer to all RZA users.

Build to skills get enough wins to earn more money.

Build other skills after that and try to reach for bowl.
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posted: 2022-08-27 19:09:06 (ID: 100168779) Report Abuse
I think it would make much more sense, if YOU write a new guide.

I'm not being sarcastic. Why not?? It doesn't need to be as complete as Jack's. Just state clearly that you differ on some aspects of the game, and present your own view on these.

On the other hand, Jack quite clearly indicated that he is not a proponent of the view you support, so I don't see why he'd need to change his own guide against his own thoughts
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laura
posted: 2022-08-27 19:26:53 (ID: 100168786) Report Abuse
As my point of view Jack share totally his experience and write a guide
It isn't officially guide, officially there is manual which is less specific.
If somebody see that guide is not correct (at some mid step or final step for somebody), why to blame Jack?
If there is officially guide for this topic and open game program, then game will be 99% template. Who play longer wins more...

We need to guess the best as per our understanding of NFL (nobody get hard so much in comparison with collage level) and push the simulation to be better regarding some bugs.


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