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dumpling
posted: 2023-04-10 19:51:02 (ID: 100173393)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
So Pete says ‘The community has to deal with the burden’

So everyone set your teams up like I said in my first post and forget about training skills and playbook.

Not the game I want to spend any more time on

Goodbye all

Last edited on 2023-04-10 19:52:02 by dumpling

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posted: 2023-04-10 20:01:45 (ID: 100173394) Report Abuse
Cheers, thanks for playing RZA
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Olband
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posted: 2023-04-10 21:11:20 (ID: 100173395) Report Abuse
I believe we already have discussion going about lopsided game play, and obviously it has been an issue before, but implementation of a solution isn't simple. I do believe more can be done, as I have blathered on about plenty, but in this situation I agree that there were more factors involved. It's not as simple as this particular playbook is a sure-win situation, or that team would have a large sampling of impressive wins, which is not what his schedule shows. Even a little scouting and planning could likely have prevented this. As it is, we're talking a large fluke of luck, which is part of game play, and which should definitely be part of game play. The better team probably would have won this matchup 90+% of the time. I've won against teams I 'shouldn't' have beat, and lost against teams that I 'should' have taken care of. I understand that it's very frustrating, especially when a little more lopsided/karma/defensive adjustment would likely prevent this, but we all have the same game to play and to deal with, so go with what we have and be grateful for what Pete has been able to generate for us, or you probably won't enjoy the game.
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posted: 2023-04-11 04:34:18 (ID: 100173396) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Kanar wrote:
Pete? Is there any thing to explain this result?


The only thing I can say about it: when I was introducing Coaches Karma and tried to let it influence the sim engine, I was shot down not only with arguments, but kind of attacks even via PM. Now the commmunity has to deal with the burden out of it. Coaches Karma and the lopsided tactics detection where both flagging this gameplay. Imagine Coaches Karma WOULD influence the engine


For what it’s worth I was rooting big time FOR coach karma. And more than ever, I still believe we need it.

If you need proof, I only have one TE and still use 2 TE formations.

I do remember many disagreed. But many disagreed on other things you still implemented. You are the boss.

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posted: 2023-04-11 08:43:04 (ID: 100173397) Report Abuse
You win some, you lose some. You win some you should lose, you lose some you should win. So long as it's only happening once in a blue moon, I'm fine with it. Annoying as it is, things like this happen IRL. But I'm Detroit Lions and Millwall so I suppose I've got a built in immunity to it.
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posted: 2023-04-11 08:48:52 (ID: 100173398) Report Abuse
lions1934 wrote:
built in immunity to it.


Where can I buy this stuff?
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posted: 2023-04-11 08:49:28 (ID: 100173399) Report Abuse
dumpling wrote:
A message to all teams - take advantage of this exploit:

Just 1 formation needed - SG2
Pass 100% of the time - no run needed
Throw Left/Middle and ignore the right

Thats right your 48% rated team can beat a 83% rated team in a supercup game

Unfortunately the side effect of this tactic is that it will likely ruin the enjoyment of the game for players (it has for me)


Apologies if I'm missing something really obvious here, but ... what is the significance of throwing Left/Middle ??
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posted: 2023-04-11 08:50:20 (ID: 100173400)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
Kanar wrote:
pete wrote:
...Coaches Karma...


For what it’s worth I was rooting big time FOR coach karma. And more than ever, I still believe we need it.

If you need proof, I only have one TE and still use 2 TE formations.

I do remember many disagreed. But many disagreed on other things you still implemented. You are the boss.



This is just not my nature, but I believe you are right. Sometimes arguing is just useless to reach a certain goal.

Last edited on 2023-04-11 08:50:30 by pete

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posted: 2023-04-11 08:50:40 (ID: 100173401) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
lions1934 wrote:
built in immunity to it.


Where can I buy this stuff?


I usually find it in a nice single malt whisky.

(Suggestion : whisky emoji needed).
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posted: 2023-04-11 08:52:58 (ID: 100173402) Report Abuse
ShareScope wrote:
dumpling wrote:
A message to all teams - take advantage of this exploit:

Just 1 formation needed - SG2
Pass 100% of the time - no run needed
Throw Left/Middle and ignore the right

Thats right your 48% rated team can beat a 83% rated team in a supercup game

Unfortunately the side effect of this tactic is that it will likely ruin the enjoyment of the game for players (it has for me)


Apologies if I'm missing something really obvious here, but ... what is the significance of throwing Left/Middle ??


They try to kind of overload a certain side of the attack. This might work under certain cirmumstances, but might fail big in other ones. From time to time a manager is upset about being on the losing side of the coin.
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