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  Poll: Should we add game ending injuries? See the details below!, Poll closed, votes: 140
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Yes, add game ending injuries
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No, don't add game ending injuries
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posted: 2018-08-23 17:22:52 (ID: 100132105)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
"There are people who would say that you shouldn't mix music and politics, or sport and politics, or whatever, but I think that's kinda bullshit." - - Adam Clayton, , Bass, U2

Oh, wrong quote, sorry.

"We need more realism, and this includes career ending injuries", 50% of RZA managers

"Don't spoil the fun by introducing career ending injuries, after all this is a game meant to fun", the other 50%



So, here is what I think would be a nice compromise: We have training injuries, who bench a player for a few days. We have ingame injuries who bench the player for exactly 15 plays.

Let's add "game ending injuries". A player who faces such an injury, is out for this game, exactly for this single game. It could be based on Phisical Condition as exampe, maybe combined with the fact if there is an assistant coach available for the plays position (where he played when he faced the possible injury). Of course having the Physo doc at 20 would be less risky for such a player. And of course there would be a hard limit, so you would not face 50 game long injured players.

How about?

If you go for a NO, I would like to learn more about your fears. Please comment or send me PM, please.

Last edited on 2018-08-23 18:12:28 by pete

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Sharkn20
posted: 2018-08-23 17:56:48 (ID: 100132106) Report Abuse
Yes!
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prchaser
posted: 2018-08-23 18:54:28 (ID: 100132110) Report Abuse
My no vote is based on the number of in-game injuries, but maybe this gets addressed with whatever changes you are thinking. Currently, it is not uncommon to have a dozen or so injuries per game.

With the change, would we still have this many injuries and all of those players are lost for the rest of the game (or longer)? Or would there be fewer in-game injuries? Or will there still be injuries that last just for a few minutes and an unlucky few who are lost for an extended period of time?

I don't have statistical data to support my opinion, but I believe game-ending injuries are not a common event, like probably less than one per game.
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posted: 2018-08-23 19:14:06 (ID: 100132111) Report Abuse
prchaser wrote:
I don't have statistical data to support my opinion, but I believe game-ending injuries are not a common event, like probably less than one per game.


So this means, your vote should be a yes-vote. There were no numbers mentioned, and this should be part of the further discussion.
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prchaser
posted: 2018-08-23 19:25:00 (ID: 100132112)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
Really, I probably should have voted to empower Yoda, but this is a case where I don't think realism adds much to the game. Just one man's opinion.

But I did take the time to find this article. In short, about 60% of injuries don't result in any additional weeks lost. This data covers a 15-season period looking only at weeks 1-16, excluding week 17, playoffs and preseason games. So if there are 16 games per week, for 16 weeks for 15 seasons, this data covers 3,840 games. This article reports 30,186 injuries in that time, which would be about 8 injuries per game. If about 40% of those result in missing an extra game, this would mean about 3-4 injuries per game, if realism is the goal.

***Edit: actually it would be 15 games per week because of byes, so adjust if you want

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posted: 2018-08-23 19:29:11 (ID: 100132113) Report Abuse
No no....it is NOT to miss an additional game...it is about not playing in THAT game where you got injured....having a game the next day? no problem...
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posted: 2018-08-23 19:51:35 (ID: 100132114) Report Abuse
Here is my worry:
I have an important game coming up. I make time to watch it live. Its a playoff game. Equal chances. Im excited. My QB gets hurt in the 2nd quarter. I lose because of the injury.
Realistic?? Sure.
Fun?? not at all. Only frustration.
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posted: 2018-08-23 20:10:49 (ID: 100132115) Report Abuse
I understand that very well, no worries. But, do you follow the argument that the game would be a bit more fun of we were forced to use the depth of our rosters?
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Mücke
posted: 2018-08-23 20:27:19 (ID: 100132116) Report Abuse
Angus, now imagine your QB#2 takes over and rides the show. How big that story would be


Pete, a sidenote. Whenever you start a poll i only get to it by "accident". Could we have a short PM to get attention on polls pls?
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posted: 2018-08-23 20:40:21 (ID: 100132117) Report Abuse
Mücke wrote:

Pete, a sidenote. Whenever you start a poll i only get to it by "accident". Could we have a short PM to get attention on polls pls?


There is a notification in your Coaches Assistant.
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