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| posted: 2021-09-21 18:39:55 (ID: 100161553) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |
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Pete,
This is unbeliveable: 8:34 3 and goal to go on opp 3, Knútur Jökulsson (OC) snaps the ball to Nigel Fanny (QB), who hands off to Lucas Bellanger (HB/C), he starts running over the right guard, Lucas Bellanger (HB/C) fumbles, Dexter Hughes (MLB) can recover the ball (Big I formation vs. 5-3-3) 8:30 The return attempt by Dexter Hughes (MLB) fails (5-3-3 vs. Big I formation) 8:28 Safety: 8:28 Anurag Sai (P) kicks the ball from own 20 for 55, Carol Morgan (KR/C) is returning the ball, tackled by Milan Gajić (G/L), this was a 12 yards return Opp team fumbled, my team recovered. Match, 3rd quarter Instead of having a touchback and start from 20 yards line, they get a safety. Engine is killing me two games in a row, but this is something that is against the American football rules. Last edited on 2021-09-21 19:29:47 by Dumbarajko |
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posted: 2021-09-21 20:34:21 (ID: 100161563) Report Abuse |
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Ouch...that sucks. But it is possible that his player fumbled the ball outside of the end zone and your player recovered it on the one and ran backward a few steps into the end zone during the return and was tackled. I believe that would be ruled a safety in real football
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| posted: 2021-09-21 20:36:53 (ID: 100161564) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |
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prchaser wrote:
Ouch...that sucks. But it is possible that his player fumbled the ball outside of the end zone and your player recovered it on the one and ran backward a few steps into the end zone during the return and was tackled. I believe that would be ruled a safety in real football Each time there is a fumble result in RZA is: 1) FAILS 2) xx yards fumble return Never saw minus yards for fumble return for all of my time in RZA. Last edited on 2021-09-21 20:37:02 by Dumbarajko |
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| posted: 2021-09-22 02:52:42 (ID: 100161570) Edits found: 2 Report Abuse | |
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Dumbarajko wrote:
Pete, This is unbeliveable: 8:34 3 and goal to go on opp 3, Knútur Jökulsson (OC) snaps the ball to Nigel Fanny (QB), who hands off to Lucas Bellanger (HB/C), he starts running over the right guard, Lucas Bellanger (HB/C) fumbles, Dexter Hughes (MLB) can recover the ball (Big I formation vs. 5-3-3) 8:30 The return attempt by Dexter Hughes (MLB) fails (5-3-3 vs. Big I formation) 8:28 Safety: 8:28 Anurag Sai (P) kicks the ball from own 20 for 55, Carol Morgan (KR/C) is returning the ball, tackled by Milan Gajić (G/L), this was a 12 yards return Opp team fumbled, my team recovered. Match, 3rd quarter Instead of having a touchback and start from 20 yards line, they get a safety. Engine is killing me two games in a row, but this is something that is against the American football rules. I think the ball carrier fumbled on the opp 0 line. Your team picked the ball and the return failed. The engine must have "read" that your team was in possession of the ball inside your own endzone (own 0 line is already inside the endzone) which means a safety (for the engine script). It must have not taken into account who had the ball possession before or if it was your offense or defense who finished the play inside the own endzone. That is what I have understood and is only a guess. Last edited on 2021-09-22 02:54:24 by linkleo911 |
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| posted: 2021-09-22 08:08:24 (ID: 100161578) Report Abuse | |
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linkleo911 wrote:
I think the ball carrier fumbled on the opp 0 line. Your team picked the ball and the return failed. The engine must have "read" that your team was in possession of the ball inside your own endzone (own 0 line is already inside the endzone) which means a safety (for the engine script). It must have not taken into account who had the ball possession before or if it was your offense or defense who finished the play inside the own endzone. That is what I have understood and is only a guess. That is exactly what I also think that happened. And engine read it as a tackle in endzone with a result of a safety like it was my running play. |
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| posted: 2021-09-22 17:39:30 (ID: 100161590) Report Abuse | |
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hm, this is strange. I see this for the first time. I am more than happy it was not infuencing the league so much.
For the moment, I have no idea how to fix this one. |
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| posted: 2021-09-22 20:29:45 (ID: 100161601) Report Abuse | |
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I think that the fumble should not have happened at the 0 yd line. If the offensive team reaches the line it should be a score. Maybe if you establish that a fumble could only happen from the 1 yd line to the 99 yd line... Just an idea. Maybe a bit unfair with the defense in this case.
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| posted: 2021-09-22 22:30:10 (ID: 100161603) Report Abuse | |
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linkleo911 wrote:
I think that the fumble should not have happened at the 0 yd line. A fumble cannot happen at the goalline. Such a condition is in place for ages. To me it seems like a fumble short before the goalline, and a turnover because of the recovery by the defense. This is expected. However, seems the engine does not keep track long enough of the fact it was a recovered fumble, and therefore counts the ball "in possession of the recovering team, but its offense". The tackle of the ballcarrier causes the safety. An easy fix would to not let defenses recover fumbles in their own endzone. I dislike this solution, because it is no solution, much more one would call it dirty hack. |
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| posted: 2021-09-22 22:40:19 (ID: 100161604) Report Abuse | |
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Reference for myself
8:34 3 and goal to go on opp 3, Knútur Jökulsson (OC) snaps the ball to Nigel Fanny (QB), who hands off to Lucas Bellanger (HB/C), he starts running over the right guard, Lucas Bellanger (HB/C) fumbles, Dexter Hughes (MLB) can recover the ball (Big I formation vs. 5-3-3) more 8:30 The return attempt by Dexter Hughes (MLB) fails (5-3-3 vs. Big I formation) more 8:28 Safety: more 8:28 Anurag Sai (P) kicks the ball from own 20 for 55, Carol Morgan (KR/C) is returning the ball, tackled by Milan Gajić (G/L), this was a 12 yards return 8:23 1 and 10 to go on own 37, Knútur Jökulsson (OC) snaps the ball to Nigel Fanny (QB), Barton Varney (HB/C) gets the ball, this seems to be a run over the left guard, Ivan Savić (DE/L) breaks through, Shaiming Shum (TE/R) blocks, Uglješa Gligorijević (NT) tackles Barton Varney (HB/C), forward progress: 1 yards (Big I formation vs. 5-3-3) more Commit: Avoid fumble recovery near goalline if there is a danger to turn those into safeties. Push the los outside the endzone, and consider this to be a dirty hack, only |
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| posted: 2021-09-22 23:55:49 (ID: 100161605) Report Abuse | |
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pete wrote:
A fumble cannot happen at the goalline. Such a condition is in place for ages. As I have never seen a "negative" return in fumble recovery (just as Dumba said) it seems like that condition was not in place in this case. But in master Yoda I must believe.  |
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