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posted: 2021-09-22 23:57:00 (ID: 100161606) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
hm, this is strange. I see this for the first time. I am more than happy it was not infuencing the league so much.

For the moment, I have no idea how to fix this one.


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posted: 2021-09-23 10:34:52 (ID: 100161609) Report Abuse
linkleo911 wrote:

As I have never seen a "negative" return in fumble recovery (just as Dumba said) it seems like that condition was not in place in this case.


It was. It is simply not what happened, why this protection did not do anything.

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posted: 2021-09-23 10:37:14 (ID: 100161610) Report Abuse
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This is just proof: no matter how aged software is, you can still find unforeseen conditions
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posted: 2021-09-23 14:22:38 (ID: 100161612) Report Abuse
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As I have never seen a "negative" return in fumble recovery (just as Dumba said) it seems like that condition was not in place in this case.

It was. It is simply not what happened, why this protection did not do anything.



Pete,

I don't understand.

Did it happened negative yards for fumble return or not? Or player fumbled like on 1 yard line, ball rolled to endzone, Hughes got it?
Is that even possible in RZA?
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posted: 2021-09-23 19:57:37 (ID: 100161621) Report Abuse
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Pete,

I don't understand.


as I wrote before:

pete wrote:

To me it seems like a fumble short before the goalline, and a turnover because of the recovery by the defense. This is expected.

However, seems the engine does not keep track long enough of the fact it was a recovered fumble, and therefore counts the ball "in possession of the recovering team, but its offense". The tackle of the ballcarrier causes the safety.

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posted: 2021-09-23 21:51:05 (ID: 100161624) Report Abuse
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Dumbarajko wrote:
Pete,

I don't understand.


as I wrote before:

pete wrote:

To me it seems like a fumble short before the goalline, and a turnover because of the recovery by the defense. This is expected.

However, seems the engine does not keep track long enough of the fact it was a recovered fumble, and therefore counts the ball "in possession of the recovering team, but its offense". The tackle of the ballcarrier causes the safety.



I read that and you say "fumble short before the goalline"

So my defense recovered it short before goalline.

Why is than safety instead 1st & 10 on my 1 yard line?
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posted: 2021-09-24 15:01:18 (ID: 100161629) Report Abuse
Read, what I wrote.
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posted: 2021-09-24 15:17:18 (ID: 100161631) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Read, what I wrote.


Really don't know what is a problem to explain did player that recover a ball gone back to endzone and then they tackled him or ball after fumble went into endzone by itself???

Once again you wrote:

"A fumble cannot happen at the goalline. Such a condition is in place for ages.

To me it seems like a fumble short before the goalline, and a turnover because of the recovery by the defense. This is expected.

However, seems the engine does not keep track long enough of the fact it was a recovered fumble, and therefore counts the ball "in possession of the recovering team, but its offense". The tackle of the ballcarrier causes the safety. "

1) Fumble can't happen at the goalline, ok good to know
2) Fumbled short before the goalline = turnover, recovered by defense. SHORT BEFORE THE GOALLINE still stands, never written recovery in endzone
3) Engine then thinks that recovered team is in offense, tackle causes a safety. How is a tackle in field short before the goalline safety?

So did the ball after fumble went into endzone and than was recovered by defense or player who recovered fumble got backward in endzone, that is a mystery?

I believe everybody understand that engine takes recovery team as a offense, but how possession started in endzone is a question?

Thanks in advance for making it clear to us.
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posted: 2021-09-24 15:54:18 (ID: 100161633) Report Abuse
I said all I want to say about this topic. Sorry.
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posted: 2021-09-24 18:40:50 (ID: 100161636) Report Abuse
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I said all I want to say about this topic. Sorry.


That is a fair answer
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