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Captain Jack
posted: 2014-06-12 16:08:29 (ID: 100035446) Report Abuse
Lendo wrote:

You don't even need scouts to know that Romo sucks


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mrtattoo
posted: 2014-06-12 17:17:43 (ID: 100035457) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
We had this before, so the answer will be the same...

Scout Bill C. Belicheat is entering the training camp of the Dallas Crygirls Junior team...


Just corrected that one huge mistake you made.
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Meitheisman
posted: 2014-06-14 14:25:58 (ID: 100035796) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Grzymisław wrote:
Simply what I suggest is to enable scout reports showing physical caps.
Such a report could be very expensive and only 1 per RZA week. Accuracy of such a report could be reduced to showing if player is capped(red) or near(yellow), not exactly which one - only free of caps or not.

Sorry if suggested before and refused.
We had this before, so the answer will be the same...

Scout Bill C. Belicheat is entering the training camp of the Dallas Cryboys Junior team. He is looking at a young boy, called Tony I. Romo...he sees the boy has quite some passing skills, and writes down Passing 38. He sees the guy knows how to move, and make cuts, so Agility 34. Next he checks about strength...21...how the hell could he see if Romo is capped already?

He would have to come back in 1 year, and then he writes down Passing NI (no improvement), Agility NI, Strength: 22...so Bill knows now the guy was not capped at 21.

After another year, Bill writes down Passing NI (no improvement), Agility NI, Strength: 22...so Bill knows now the guy was capped at 22? No, he doesn't. All he knows is that Romo did not improve his strength, and he knows Romo still sucks being a Quarterback...

A scout cannot tell about Caps! Not from 1 visits or 2...


That's fair enough but then shouldn't we know the skills of opposing players after playing against them if that's how it works?

If Belicheat plays against Romo he doesn't need to go watch his practice to know what his skills are since he saw him in a live game.
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bwadders76
posted: 2014-06-15 21:31:33 (ID: 100035967) Report Abuse
Meitheisman wrote:
That's fair enough but then shouldn't we know the skills of opposing players after playing against them if that's how it works?

If Belicheat plays against Romo he doesn't need to go watch his practice to know what his skills are since he saw him in a live game.


True. However, lets say that Romo plays for a divisional rival and in the first game he sucks but in the second game he plays even worse? Does that mean that his skills have regressed or that the answer could just be that the second game is a clutch game with playoff football at stake?
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Brickington
posted: 2014-06-15 23:04:39 (ID: 100035974) Report Abuse
bwadders76 wrote:
Meitheisman wrote:
That's fair enough but then shouldn't we know the skills of opposing players after playing against them if that's how it works?

If Belicheat plays against Romo he doesn't need to go watch his practice to know what his skills are since he saw him in a live game.


True. However, lets say that Romo plays for a divisional rival and in the first game he sucks but in the second game he plays even worse? Does that mean that his skills have regressed or that the answer could just be that the second game is a clutch game with playoff football at stake?


I'm going to take that point with a grain of salt, because RZA players are not yet programmed to do things like choke in big games, but at the same time, you're right that sometimes things happen and a player plays worse because of it, and in here, sometimes it's random chance.

I don't like the idea of adding scouting reports that show caps, because that's like turning easy mode on in a video game. Suddenly drafting becomes a rat race to see who can get the guys with the best physicals because of their market value, rather than a gamble where you try your best to get good (or valuable) players.

Admittedly, the primary reason I don't like this is simply because I don't feel like this is a necessary change.
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Gambler75
posted: 2014-06-16 09:58:52 (ID: 100036010) Report Abuse
Realism aside ... I think enacting this for the transfer market only, not draft prospects - would be a good step towards eliminating some of the TM negativity and people scamming / lying, etc.
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Brickington
posted: 2014-06-16 10:06:03 (ID: 100036011) Report Abuse
Gambler75 wrote:
Realism aside ... I think enacting this for the transfer market only, not draft prospects - would be a good step towards eliminating some of the TM negativity and people scamming / lying, etc.

This last issue has reminded us of a problem that's real in the game: Bad information, malicious or accidental.

I have changed my mind on this issue, but I feel like it should apply for the transfer market only.
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