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hollyhh2000
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posted: 2016-06-14 09:27:31 (ID: 100079026) Report Abuse |
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Buddy Ryan wrote:
maybe FBs should just be able to pick up blitzes in every formation they are used in, not just in the SGs where they are lined up next to the QB (in every other formation, which dont pick up blitzes, hes behind the QB). that way FB becomes even more overpowered, but at least it opens up the playbook a little and allows effective passing out of iformation, BigI, wish- and flexbone. the huge downside of this of course would be that pass rush would get disvalued anyway - hard pill to swallow, since our defensive options are limited. imo the way to go, and the same time adjust the now perfect blocking of the FB to 30-70% success rate on blocks depending the ability of blitzer and FB. That way, you can adjust that the total number of sacks could stay the same. |
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Buddy Ryan
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posted: 2016-06-14 10:33:40 (ID: 100079029) Report Abuse |
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hollyhh2000 wrote:
Buddy Ryan wrote:
maybe FBs should just be able to pick up blitzes in every formation they are used in, not just in the SGs where they are lined up next to the QB (in every other formation, which dont pick up blitzes, hes behind the QB). that way FB becomes even more overpowered, but at least it opens up the playbook a little and allows effective passing out of iformation, BigI, wish- and flexbone. the huge downside of this of course would be that pass rush would get disvalued anyway - hard pill to swallow, since our defensive options are limited. imo the way to go, and the same time adjust the now perfect blocking of the FB to 30-70% success rate on blocks depending the ability of blitzer and FB. That way, you can adjust that the total number of sacks could stay the same. yep, that sounds better!  |
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Gambler75
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posted: 2016-06-16 12:41:36 (ID: 100079182) Report Abuse |
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Not 100% against HB pass blocking, as it would be realistic ... but the implementation seems a bit messy ... How is the HB going to decide if he's doing blitz pickup or going out for a pass? Formation based? Or would this involve adding say a vision check to see if he sees the blitz? (Tho realistically that would be more likely the QB's call in adjusting the protection)
Seems like a far simpler solution would be to improve the frequency and effectiveness of QB dump off passes to the HB, and make it work from all HB formations? Then add the excellent suggestion above to make FB blocking work from all formations, but making it *FAR* more dependant on the blocking skill of the FB - so that should in effect "nerf" the overall level of FB god mode pass blocking.  Last edited on 2016-06-16 12:43:46 by Gambler75 |
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hollyhh2000
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posted: 2016-06-16 12:51:50 (ID: 100079183) Report Abuse |
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Gambler75 wrote:
How is the HB going to decide if he's doing blitz pickup or going out for a pass? Formation based? Or would this involve adding say a vision check to see if he sees the blitz? (Tho realistically that would be more likely the QB's call in adjusting the protection) Imo, it should be with the playcall ( as in real life), so in a percentage of plays the HB should go out on a route and be a dump off receiver (either the coverage just would get harder as the defense would have to account for another receiver, or imo better the HB would get a lot of dump off passes thrown his way if the pressure gets too high, just to drop a ton of them due to the stone hands, the majority of HBs in RZA now have) and the rest of the passing plays the HB stays and tries to block and most RZA HBs should get run over, as they currently have no blocking skill The gold plus version, would be, if the offense could adjust the percentage of route vs stay for protection, so you could account on your TBs built  Last edited on 2016-06-16 12:52:22 by hollyhh2000 |
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gnikeoj
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posted: 2016-06-16 15:05:18 (ID: 100079191) Report Abuse |
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hollyhh2000 wrote:
Gambler75 wrote:
How is the HB going to decide if he's doing blitz pickup or going out for a pass? Formation based? Or would this involve adding say a vision check to see if he sees the blitz? (Tho realistically that would be more likely the QB's call in adjusting the protection) Imo, it should be with the playcall ( as in real life), so in a percentage of plays the HB should go out on a route and be a dump off receiver (either the coverage just would get harder as the defense would have to account for another receiver, or imo better the HB would get a lot of dump off passes thrown his way if the pressure gets too high, just to drop a ton of them due to the stone hands, the majority of HBs in RZA now have) and the rest of the passing plays the HB stays and tries to block and most RZA HBs should get run over, as they currently have no blocking skill The gold plus version, would be, if the offense could adjust the percentage of route vs stay for protection, so you could account on your TBs built I mentioned max protection % earlier in the thread. I think this in the most logical way to present a counter to blitzes. First, it allows to a method to counter blitzes from the day it's implemented. Then it would allow users time to further develop their athletes to take advatage of other changes down the line. |
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Gambler75
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posted: 2016-06-16 17:53:41 (ID: 100079200) Report Abuse |
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gnikeoj wrote:
I mentioned max protection % earlier in the thread. I think this in the most logical way to present a counter to blitzes. First, it allows to a method to counter blitzes from the day it's implemented. Then it would allow users time to further develop their athletes to take advatage of other changes down the line. True - but then aren't we just pendulum swinging from FBs to HBs? From 2012-2014, one in every five NFL passes went to a back out of the backfield ... would love to see HBs be a counter to blitzes in some sort of dump off fashion, more than just making them into FBs, who also catch 2-3 passes per season - that was more my point. If it's done in concert with allowing them to block based on a %, great ... more options is always better, and people certainly will have a hard time training a HB to do *everything*. |
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gnikeoj
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posted: 2016-06-16 17:58:36 (ID: 100079201) Report Abuse |
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I agree. I actually want the HB to be the most versatile player in the game. Any change that allows them to block and catch passes gets the
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